spacellamaman
Member
(for those not familiar with the arcane gobblety-goop that follows the gist is: Ft Bragg/central NC area- today 6/18/2018 7-11PM EST- ADSBexchange -Watch it)
Checking the NOTAMS today I saw:
!RDU 06/173 5W4 AIRSPACE SEE ZDC 06/233 PJE 1806182300-1806190300
!FAY 06/014 FAY AIRSPACE SEE ZDC 06/233 PJE 1806182300-1806190300
!DCA 06/233 ZDC AIRSPACE PJE WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 15NM RADIUS OF SDZ113019 (10.8NM SW POB) SFC-F260 1806182300-1806190300
interesting but they do a bunch of serious HAHO stuff out there around KMEB / 5W4 on a regular basis, though over 20,000ft is more the exception. But I continued reading and i see:
!DCA 06/236 ZDC AIRSPACE SPECIAL AERIAL REFUELING TRACK/ANCHOR WI AN AREA DEFINED AS RDU319032 TO RDU225036 TO RDU243053 TO RDU301050 TO POINT OF ORIGIN ACT 13000FT-FL190 DLY 0430-0930 1806190430-1806220930
especially this one which the hours coincide with:
!DCA 06/235 ZDC AIRSPACE SPECIAL AERIAL REFUELING TRACK/ANCHOR WI AN AREA DEFINED AS FAY046057 TO FAY104039 TO FAY119016 TO FAY023045 TO POINT OF ORIGIN ACT 11000FT-FL190 DLY 2300-1000 1806182300-1806221000
and while i can't say for sure where SBV is (cause i have yet to figure out what aero charts/maps use the FAY RDU SDZ etc grids, and would be thrilled if someone enlightened me) I bet TYI is in the area-ish too
!DCA 06/234 ZDC AIRSPACE SPECIAL AERIAL REFUELING TRACK/ANCHOR WI AN AREA DEFINED AS SBV092022 TO TYI004015 TO TYI270012 TO SBV148018 TO POINT OF ORIGIN ACT 13000FT-FL190 DLY 0300-1000 1806190300-1806221000
and since empty airspace is wasted airspace, to top it off:
NUMEROUS ACFT x2
!RDU 06/176 SDZ AIRSPACE NUMEROUS ACFT WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 5NM RADIUS OF SDZ160012 (HFF) FL200-FL220 DLY 0001-1200 1806190001-1806221200
!RDU 06/175 SDZ AIRSPACE NUMEROUS ACFT WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 5NM RADIUS OF SDZ160012 (HFF) BLOCK ALT 8000-10000FT DLY 0001-1200 1806190001-1806221200
& the generally routine UAS stuff
!RDU 06/164 SDZ AIRSPACE UAS WI AN AREA DEFINED AS SDZ145016 TO SDZ135016 TO SDZ130014 TO POINT OF ORIGIN SFC-2000FT AGL DLY 1100-0400 1806181100-1806230400
!RDU 06/163 SDZ AIRSPACE UAS WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 5NM RADIUS OF SDZ159011.5 SFC-2000FT AGL DLY 1100-0400 1806181100-1806230400
SOOOOO......I dunno if I am going to be able to sit around an watch https://global.adsbexchange.com/VirtualRadar/desktop.html# all evening (though i am certainly thinking about it) but as we are a global community I thought it might make for interesting investigating by those who are near and far and throw it out there.
I watch the NOTAMs religiously and have been for 3 years now and this is definitely a new one for me. I have never even seen a refueling route of any variety around here NOTAM'd out before.
Checking the NOTAMS today I saw:
!RDU 06/173 5W4 AIRSPACE SEE ZDC 06/233 PJE 1806182300-1806190300
!FAY 06/014 FAY AIRSPACE SEE ZDC 06/233 PJE 1806182300-1806190300
!DCA 06/233 ZDC AIRSPACE PJE WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 15NM RADIUS OF SDZ113019 (10.8NM SW POB) SFC-F260 1806182300-1806190300
interesting but they do a bunch of serious HAHO stuff out there around KMEB / 5W4 on a regular basis, though over 20,000ft is more the exception. But I continued reading and i see:
!DCA 06/236 ZDC AIRSPACE SPECIAL AERIAL REFUELING TRACK/ANCHOR WI AN AREA DEFINED AS RDU319032 TO RDU225036 TO RDU243053 TO RDU301050 TO POINT OF ORIGIN ACT 13000FT-FL190 DLY 0430-0930 1806190430-1806220930
especially this one which the hours coincide with:
!DCA 06/235 ZDC AIRSPACE SPECIAL AERIAL REFUELING TRACK/ANCHOR WI AN AREA DEFINED AS FAY046057 TO FAY104039 TO FAY119016 TO FAY023045 TO POINT OF ORIGIN ACT 11000FT-FL190 DLY 2300-1000 1806182300-1806221000
and while i can't say for sure where SBV is (cause i have yet to figure out what aero charts/maps use the FAY RDU SDZ etc grids, and would be thrilled if someone enlightened me) I bet TYI is in the area-ish too
!DCA 06/234 ZDC AIRSPACE SPECIAL AERIAL REFUELING TRACK/ANCHOR WI AN AREA DEFINED AS SBV092022 TO TYI004015 TO TYI270012 TO SBV148018 TO POINT OF ORIGIN ACT 13000FT-FL190 DLY 0300-1000 1806190300-1806221000
and since empty airspace is wasted airspace, to top it off:
NUMEROUS ACFT x2
!RDU 06/176 SDZ AIRSPACE NUMEROUS ACFT WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 5NM RADIUS OF SDZ160012 (HFF) FL200-FL220 DLY 0001-1200 1806190001-1806221200
!RDU 06/175 SDZ AIRSPACE NUMEROUS ACFT WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 5NM RADIUS OF SDZ160012 (HFF) BLOCK ALT 8000-10000FT DLY 0001-1200 1806190001-1806221200
& the generally routine UAS stuff
!RDU 06/164 SDZ AIRSPACE UAS WI AN AREA DEFINED AS SDZ145016 TO SDZ135016 TO SDZ130014 TO POINT OF ORIGIN SFC-2000FT AGL DLY 1100-0400 1806181100-1806230400
!RDU 06/163 SDZ AIRSPACE UAS WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 5NM RADIUS OF SDZ159011.5 SFC-2000FT AGL DLY 1100-0400 1806181100-1806230400
SOOOOO......I dunno if I am going to be able to sit around an watch https://global.adsbexchange.com/VirtualRadar/desktop.html# all evening (though i am certainly thinking about it) but as we are a global community I thought it might make for interesting investigating by those who are near and far and throw it out there.
I watch the NOTAMs religiously and have been for 3 years now and this is definitely a new one for me. I have never even seen a refueling route of any variety around here NOTAM'd out before.
Last edited: