What mobile ham would you recommend?

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Jhernan488

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I currently have the btech 50x2. It works just fine. I’m thinking of getting a better quality unit as the btech controls are weird at times... what dual band mobile radio would you recommend?

I’m also thinking of getting one that can RX/TX on more than just 2m and 70cm. What would you recommend for 2m and 70cm? And what one that can RX/TX on more than the typical. Like 2m 70cm 6m 10m....
 

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It's been a while since I've done any dual band amateur stuff, so this might be a bit out of date.
Kenwood 710 was one of my favorite dual band mobiles. You can run APRS, which can be interesting.
It'll do VHF - VHF, UHF - UHF, or VHF - UHF. Dual receivers can be handy.
I had an old Yaesu FT-7800, which was a dual band mobile, but only single band at a time. A low buck/small form solution

For the quad band radios, consider what kind of antenna(s) you'll need before you go down that route. There are only a few out there, and they were always kind of ugly.
Also, if you have a Technician license, you only have about 200KHz of phone privileges on the 10 meter band. I believe the repeater sub bands are outside that allocation.
 

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The Kenwood D710 was my favorite too. I also had a Yaesu FT-7600R that I liked but it only offered one band at a time.
 

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Keep in mind that with the 8900 that the 6 and 10 meter band only transmits on FM , and those bans are primarily SSB .
 

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I have a Yaesu FT-8800 in one vehicle and an Icom 2730a in another. I also have a TYT 9800 quad band (which is a clone of the Yaesu 8900) for Field Day, etc. All these radios have their pluses and minuses. The FT-8800 is out of production. The Icom is an excellent radio, good sensitivity and selectivity. However, the two things that I don't like about the radio are (1) the non-industry standard mic hangup (uses a hook rather than the clip); (2) The xmit power setting is global, rather than on a channel-by-channel configuration. I'm generally happy with the TYT, but I've never used it on 6 or 10 meters.
 

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TYT-7800 2/70cm dual band, dual receive, does cross-band easily

Kenwood TM-V71A 2/70 cm dual band, dual receive, cross-band
 

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My preferences in order are:
Yaesu FTM-400XDR. 1000 memories [500 on Band A and 500 on Band b], AM air band on both Band A and B. Has simple APRS. Has C4FM but only on Band A. Does cross band repeat. Mic has programable keys that makes using mic instead of having to look at radio to change features I use most. Display is large. So easy to change frequencies with SD cards. Mic plugs into main body, so don't pull face plate when using Mic and cord is routed easily away form display. Will receive in 800 MHz range but does not do trunking. Volume with Yaesu external speaker is louder than Kenwood with external speaker. Are more features I like but these are the major ones for me. I have mostly used Yaesu so programing is simple.
Yaesu FT-8900: not because of quad band which is over rated. Has 800 memories but same on both bands. AM air band on both Bands. Hypermemories that make it useful for cross band repeat. Mic has programable keys. Again find it easy to program and change memories without computer.
Kenwood TM-D710G: APRS is more useful but also more complicated. Mic plugs into main body and not head. 1000 memories but only one Band does AM air band receive. Display is good. Will do cross band repeat and other operations for repeat. I really find the D710 much harder to program but that is because of less familiarity with Kenwoods.
Have only limited use of non Kenwood, Yaesu mobiles, that is CCR, and I do not like them at all.
 

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I previously used the Kenwood D710 at home and in my vehicle. It is a fantastic radio. I still have them. The Kenwood V71A is right behind it and may be a better choice if you would not use all of the D710 features. (The V71A is the same radio with a different control head.) With the D710 I found that I enjoyed leaving one side on a particular frequency/repeater to monitor and used the other side to scan through the programmed memories. Before the D710 I had a Yaesu 7800. While it was dual band, it was not dual receive. I sold it to a friend and he loves it. (Consider how you would use the radio)

I currently use the Yaesu 400XDR at home and in my vehicle, but I often enjoy using the Yaesu System Fusion digital mode. You may or may not enjoy System Fusion.

When others have asked me about a quad band radio, I asked them how many other operators are there in their area that are using FM simplex on 6 or 10 meters. After the blank stare I then ask them how many FM repeaters on 6 and 10 meters are in the area. I then tell them the answer allowing them to make a more informed decision. Some research about your area would be prudent before opting for a quad band radio.
 

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The xmit power setting is global, rather than on a channel-by-channel configuration.
What mobile radios marketed by Alinco/Icom/Kenwood/Yaesu have this feature?

TYT9800 quad band and works good. But as mentioned earlier, you are limited on antenna selection.
Even though the radio can operate on four bands, you could use it with an antenna for one band, two bands, or three bands. You don't necessarily need a four band antenna to use the radio. Just remember to not transmit on a band for which you don't have an antenna.
 

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Kenwood TM-D710G: APRS is more useful but also more complicated.
More complicated, maybe, because it has more APRS features, mostly in the area of digipeating, than the Yaesus.
I really find the D710 much harder to program but that is because of less familiarity with Kenwoods.
Familiarity has a lot to do with it. I've owned a long string of Kenwood mobiles starting with the TM-241A through TM-742A, TM-D700A, and now a TM-D710A. Later, I got a Yaesu FTM-400DR. The Yaesu sits in a box while I use the D710 every day because I found the Yaesu user interface, even with modern features like touch screen and color, to be convoluted compared to the Kenwoods. Configuring a VFO frequency to transmit a CTCSS tone on the Yaesu involves way too many steps, in my opinion.

You mentioned programmable mic keys. The Kenwoods have four buttons on the right side of the keypad which can be programmed with a range of functions. On mine, I have the top button configured for Reverse so I can easily check to see if I'm hearing someone on the input of a repeater and the bottom button configured for Enter so I can use the mic keypad to enter memory channel numbers or VFO frequency numbers. The other two buttons I've left at the default of VFO and Memory Recall.
 

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Pretty much anything from ICOM, KENWOOD, YAESU or ALINCO. Avoid the cheap Chinese stuff...........No QC. Some have poor spectral purity, too,
 

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You mentioned programmable mic keys. The Kenwoods have four buttons on the right side of the keypad which can be programmed with a range of functions. On mine, I have the top button configured for Reverse so I can easily check to see if I'm hearing someone on the input of a repeater and the bottom button configured for Enter so I can use the mic keypad to enter memory channel numbers or VFO frequency numbers. The other two buttons I've left at the default of VFO and Memory Recall.

Yaesu has 8 programable mic keys plus the top 2 buttons to start stop scan, reverse direction of scan or move memory channel up by 1. Similarly have A and B as band keys, C as squelch [however, I do like squelch on 710 but find I have to play with it a lot more than the squelch on the 400]. Other buttons are for power, reverse, weather, and band scope.
 

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I like Kenwood radios and their programing 'style'. I have both the '71A and the '710 (basically the same radio with different control heads). If I didn't 'do' APRS I think I'd have two '71A's but who knows for sure.
I'm not sure I wouldn't change a thing or two if I had the chance, but I have to say that I've felt that way about every radio I've ever owned/used. I'm also fairly sure that everyone has at least one thing they would change on their favorite radio if they got a chance, big deal, right?
Would I recommend either of these radios? Yes, I would. I would also suggest people try them out first! That's not always possible, so...
 

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Keep in mind that with the 8900 that the 6 and 10 meter band only transmits on FM , and those bans are primarily SSB .

While certainly 10 meters is mostly SSB, I would argue that 6 meters has a lot of FM on it.

On 10 the band is from 28000 kHz to 29700 kHz, and FM is typically only used on 29520 to 29700 kHz, about 180 kHz of the band. And as a Tech the OP cannot use those freqs. But on 6 the band is from 50.0 to 54.0 MHz, and FM is used from 51.12 to 54.0, almost 3 MHz of the band, and the entire band is open to Techs.

6 meter FM makes a great talk around band, unfortunately traffic tends to be pretty sparse unless the band is running. And that is what leads to some people thinking the band is mostly SSB. When propagation is supporting DX many people move to SSB on 6, and the SSB section can become quite busy. But keep in mind there are a lot of repeaters on 6, they are just typically underutalized. I use 6 for local simplex FM stuff, and it is outstanding, but there are also several repeaters I can hit from the house.

For a Tech the 8900 does result in an almost wasted band, as they can't use the 10 meters as provided by that radio. The radio is really more of a tribander for them. But they can listen, and maybe build a desire to upgrade to General to use that band more completely.

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TYT9800 quad band and works good. But as mentioned earlier, you are limited on antenna selection.
This is oh so true. I overcame this to a large extent by installing diplexers in a cascading fashion which gave me separate antenna ports on HF up to 30MHz for 10 meters, 50 to 56 MHz for 6 meters, one for 2 meter/70cm combo. It also provided 800MHz port for public service frequencies which my FT-8900 covers. I can monitor this entire mess at one time. The FT-8900 doesn't have trunking of course but I still get a good idea of what is going on around me traffic wise so I can find another route if needed.

I have since installed the FT-891 mobile which is fed through a HF/6 meter diplexer so I can always monitor 6 meters, and I switch out the HF antenna according to what is open at any given time. Now the FT-8900 only provides 2/70cm service. I really enjoy the cross band repeat feature of the FT-8900 and I use it a lot.
 

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TYT9800 quad band and works good. But as mentioned earlier, you are limited on antenna selection.
Even though the radio can operate on four bands, you could use it with an antenna for one band, two bands, or three bands. You don't necessarily need a four band antenna to use the radio. Just remember to not transmit on a band for which you don't have an antenna.

You are only limited by antenna choice if you want to be. There are a couple of antennas on the market to support this quad band configuration, but some people find the 10 m performance of these antennas lacking.

Yes, the radio is quad band and has a single antenna jack, so it is easy to get caught in the "I can only use one antenna on this radio" quagmire. But I use the FT-8900R attached to 3 antennas different antennas, a 2 m / 70 cm dual bander, a 6 m monobander, and a 10 meter monobander, all at the same time.

You come out of the radio to a duplexer / triplexer that splits up the bands the way you need them, and use any antennas you want. No muss, no fuss, no switching, and no possibility of forgetting there is not a good antenna connected on a band.

For example, out of the radio into a Diamond MX62M, this splits the frequency response into two ports, 1.6 - 56 MHz and 76 - 470 MHz, and then on the low band side of the MX62M out to a Diamond MX610. The MX610 splits the 1.6 - 56 MHz it is fed from the MX62M into two bands, 1.6 - 30 MHz and 49 - 470 MHz, resulting in two ports, 1.6 - 30 MHz and 49 - 56 MHz.

This provides you 3 outputs to connect antennas to, one is 1.6 - 30 MHz (allows 10 meters), one is 49 - 56 MHz (allows 6 meters), and one is 76 - 470 MHz (allows 2 m / 70 cm). I used this configuration for several years myself. You could use a slightly different combination of units if you wanted monobanders for each band of the radio.

The FT-8900R is quite an old design now, but still capable. It allows 4 bands, cross band repeat, is fairly compact, and has a remote head. The cost is not high, typically under $350 and I have seen it on sale for under $300. This means the quad bander is not much more expensive than a name brand entry level dual bander. And the knock off version of the 8900, if you want to take a chance on that, is often under $200.

I have, however, seen FT8900Rs loose a 10/6 front end when used near a 10 or 11 meter station with high power. Other than that the 3 I have here (one in my Raptor, one in my wifes Marauder, a third was installed in my Miata for several years, that one is setting on a shelf waiting to be installed in the new Miata) here have been pretty flawless for several years of operation. They can be MARS / CAP modded, if that is your thing, but it will NOT open up the 10 or 6 meter TX bandwidth, it only enhances the VHF/UHF TX bandwidth.

T!

(edit) Ooops, I see that while I was typing this KB4MSZ responded with the same input about Duplexors.
 
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