• Effective immediately we will be deleting, without notice, any negative threads or posts that deal with the use of encryption and streaming of scanner audio.

    We've noticed a huge increase in rants and negative posts that revolve around agencies going to encryption due to the broadcasting of scanner audio on the internet. It's now worn out and continues to be the same recycled rants. These rants hijack the threads and derail the conversation. They no longer have a place anywhere on this forum other than in the designated threads in the Rants forum in the Tavern.

    If you violate these guidelines your post will be deleted without notice and an infraction will be issued. We are not against discussion of this issue. You just need to do it in the right place. For example:
    https://forums.radioreference.com/rants/224104-official-thread-live-audio-feeds-scanners-wait-encryption.html

where info comes from

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hello, i was just wondering where exactly the info in the database comes from, i understand that some of it is entered in by people, but what about the new stuff?? i was just wondering where exactly i can go to find that out...... is there a certain part of the fcc website that lists new licsenses/frequencies every day one comes out that someone constantly checks?? or how is it done?
 
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Some people check the FCC site for new lic. grants, some find them using a search mode on a scanner. I wouldnt call the FCC site exactly user freindly, but there is alot of info there, all new scanners have to have approval of plans and what not. Some of the members know the site very well.............Hoser
 
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hello, i was just wondering where exactly the info in the database comes from, i understand that some of it is entered in by people, but what about the new stuff?? i was just wondering where exactly i can go to find that out...... is there a certain part of the fcc website that lists new licsenses/frequencies every day one comes out that someone constantly checks?? or how is it done?
Much of the info comes from listening.

You can search by many parameters, including date, here:

http://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchAdvanced.jsp
 

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I'd like to know where detailed talkgroup info comes from, like the descriptions. Are these just educated guesses based on listening, or do people somehow obtain accurate TGID info some other way?
 

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I'd like to know where detailed talkgroup info comes from, like the descriptions. Are these just educated guesses based on listening, or do people somehow obtain accurate TGID info some other way?
I've done 5 business LTR systems from scratch (frequencies & TGID's) without trunker software. All TGID's came from endless hours of listening to blah, blah, blah. Eventually, each users slips with pieces of info that allow 99% ID's. I suspect around 50% of the Public Safety systems are done the same way. The other half come from official contacts within the agencies.
 

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Airdorn said:
I'd like to know where detailed talkgroup info comes from, like the descriptions. Are these just educated guesses based on listening, or do people somehow obtain accurate TGID info some other way?
Its not exactly guessing. If you hear constant police dispatching from a talkgroup and can put together where the streets are then guess what you know what the talkgroup is and where it is. Then say on a police tac channel. You hear someone say meet me on tac 1 and then a new talkgroup he says XXX on tac 1. Most get spelled out exactly what they are. Some of the other ones are based on what people hear. For example I recently submitted a narcotics surveillance TG on a system I monitor. They kept talking about narcotics and you could easily tell it was a surveillance operation so that is what it is (even if its not the "official" name of it).
 

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Just as a heads up we do not accept information stripped from the FCC database. We need personal confirmation that what you're submitting has been verified as active or exists at a location (like a radio site).

Submitting something like a frequency, vague agency name and FCC license isn't adequate enough.
 
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I get mine by talking to other people who are local scanners and we share information back and forth. Also the easiest one for trunked systems is to set your scanner to search.
 

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I get mine by talking to other people who are local scanners and we share information back and forth. .
lol i would LOVE to get into a situation like that but i just dont know where or how to find these people
 

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You've made a good start by gettting on the Nebraska forum. As you were told there, it sounds like you'll need a digital scanner to listen to your local PD.
Here in Utah, we have formed into a "group" of individuals that meet once a month and trade private messages back and forth as we hear new Talk Groups or freqs in the area. We also, collectively, verify new info or changes to the Database before submitting them.

You need to reach out to the individuals in your area, and you will find that they are willing to help and answer your questions. But you need to be willing to do the same.
 
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