I know the VP8000 can support Analog, P25, and DMR. I also saw recently that NXDN support was confirmed on the way. What I am wondering is if NXDN could be supported with DMR and P25 at the same time, or are only two digital protocols supported at the same time like with the NX5000 series?
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Will VP8000 allow P25, DMR, and NXDN at the same time?
Yes, im currently running, p25, DMR, NXDN and it works with the NX
Yes it will!
Amazing! And the NX series can do the same? Is this the only handheld that can handle three different digital protocols at the same time?
mmckenna
I ♥ Ø
The NX series can only do two digital modes in the radio at one time.
So, Analog + P25 + DMR. Or, Analog + DMR + NXDN. Or Analog + P25 + NXDN.
VP8000 is the only portable that can do all three at once.
mmckenna
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The big benefit to NXDN is it does true 6.25KHz "very narrow" bandwidth.
It squeezes a bit more range out compared to other modes.
NXDN also has a 12.5KHz "narrow" bandwidth that sounds better than DMR and can do some decent data throughput.
Keep in mind , the NXDN in the VP is only Conventional. No trunking. So it’s simplex and basic NXDN repeaters at this time.
I’m not even sure if the final firmware has been released yet, I’m still running the Beta version.
I’m not even sure if the final firmware has been released yet, I’m still running the Beta version.
Thanks for the heads up. No need for trunking on my end. First I have even heard of NXDN.
The official firmware has not been released yet, I'm patiently waiting for it. Also, per the press release, it's an entitlement that needs ordered, not sure of cost yet, I haven't asked my dealer.
I am wondering that myself. I saw one post mention $79 but don't know if this is true. Seems a bit low to me.
Project25_MASTR
Millennial Graying OBT Guy
All of the praise should go to the engineering and development teams over at EFJ as they are the ones who spec'd the hardware requirements (and were limited by what Japan said they would manufacture, such as no inclusion of LTE) and had to develop the DMR and NXDN stacks in stages as it is has had to be developed entirely in-house which is why there is only coincidental common codebase between NX and Viking firmwares. Yes, Kenwood makes the hardware over in Japan and it's pretty good hardware…but firmware/software development is all EFJ here in the US. Yes, EFJ is owned wholly by Kenwood but like Radio Activity in Italy, EFJ still operates independently.
mmckenna
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Insert sad radio guy face here.
MTS2000des
5B2_BEE00 Czar
I know right. I had the same conversation at APCO with JVC Kw folks there. LTE is the future. Converged devices are what most P25 systems operators want. JVC KW has some excellent offerings with Viking, but no broadband is destined to leave them in the past.
Some features are oddly cheaper than I thought they would be, and others cost more, no rhyme or reason. I found out list is the same ballpark as DMR conventional. I may wait till the new Armada and firmware is released to see if that pricing stays the same.
MTS2000des
5B2_BEE00 Czar
No practical. We have Wave on our core and 25 demo licenses. Users complain about that, draining their phone battery, always "on" (yes, you can mute it), and separating "work" from "personal". Converged devices are the future. JVC KW pretending it isn't is limiting their reach for subscribers and systems. L3H and MSI have solid converged offerings with broadband.
mmckenna
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I agree. This is clearly an issue with the marketing guidance coming out of Japan. They've missed the mark in the US market. Kenwood has always suffered in this area. They eventually catch up, but it's usually too late to really grab the market.
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