XPR 6550 Call ID / TG mixup

[datainmotion]

XPR 6550 using CPS 16.0 Build 828

Problem: Different DMR systems using same Call ID / TG are displaying as other systems.

Example: United Power and ICE Detention Center both use Call ID 1. When listening to United Power and a tx is received, the display shows the ICE Control 1 tag. Traffic is definitely United Power. When monitoring ICE, it displays correctly. Coincidentally, both systems also use the same Color Code.

Both systems are listed separately as unique systems in the programming software. I'm fairly certain this is simply a programming error on my part, but I can't find the problem.

 

[datainmotion]

Additionally, both are Cap+ systems and are part of separate Group lists and Voice lists

 

[KK6ZTE]

The radio is going through the ID/alias table and once it lands on one that matches, that's what it will display. How else would it know that you didn't mean *that* TG 1, you meant that *other* TG 1?

If they both use the same group ID, that's going to happen. This is very common on early DMR buildouts when people didn't understand the need to use something other than CC1, TG1, SL1. There's a lot of them out there, and if I can convince the customer to reprogram all their units (it can happen occasionally) I'll make the changes.

Are you trying to scan them using this 6550 and a flexible RX list? Or are you an authorized user having display issues?

 

[datainmotion]

The radio is going through the ID/alias table and once it lands on one that matches, that's what it will display. How else would it know that you didn't mean *that* TG 1, you meant that *other* TG 1?

That makes sense since most DMR users may only have a single or a couple systems programmed into their radios, and most likely from the same biz or agency, so different Call IDs for each. Also are ID tables treated separately for Conventional and Cap + systems?

Are you trying to scan them using this 6550 and a flexible RX list? Or are you an authorized user having display issues?

These are RX only as an outside listener.

 

[KK6ZTE]

Still, best practice is to move them off the defaults. I’ve heard of many issues down in LA with time slot slipping and other issues with multiple systems using all defaults.

The ID tables are treated differently from conventional and Cap+.

How do you have it programmed now? If you’re using RX lists, I would define the groups into two different RX lists and then assign them to each cap+ personality.

 

[RADIOGUY2002]

No, their is no way to tag an alias to one system vs another system. Its a predefine list, its just easier to label it as TG1. The other poster reconmends a great idea when redoing the system. It usally easier to use higher numbers in a series.

Example: Cap Plus
220 Interior Security 2000-2099
221 Exterior Security 2000-2099
222 Slots 1 3000-3099
223 Slots 2 3000-3099
224 Slots 3 3000-3099
225 Housekeeping Casino 4000-4099
226 Housekeeping Hotel 5000-5099

And so on.....

 

[datainmotion]

Each system I have in the radio is in it's own RX List tied to its own relevant Cap+ personality.

 

[mikewazowski]

Problem: Different DMR systems using same Call ID / TG are displaying as other systems.

Yup, that's the way it works unfortunately.

 

[datainmotion]

Thank you, gentleman.