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XTS2500 Vs XPR7550

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I have a UHF hi band XTS2500 that I use for mostly monitoring. I love the audio and ease of programming with the cps and I also love it's durable feeling.

I am thinking of selling my XTS as there is more DMR here than P25.

Is the XPR 7550 as durable and easy to program?


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To me, the 7550 is a radio that a hotel manager would carry. While it certainly is at the TOP of the DMR food chain, these radios were never made for LE abuse. The nice thing is the radio does the whole UHF split. No hi, or low split radio line the 2500. But the 2500 is a much more rugged radio, that can do FPP. The only way a 7550 can do FPP is to get Asian FW, & CPS which is not sold in the USA, but could probably be found. I have both radios, & they both work EXCELLENT. But the 2500, in my opinion can take a beating, while the 7550 belongs in a suit pocket.
 
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I would mostly be using the 7550 for personal monitoring as I do with the 2500 now. I do love the durability, it just seems more and more services such as private ambulance, private police and ems are all going to DMR. I've seen some used 7550 radios on eBay and wonder why they are so beat up?.
I have a dell tablet I use that I'm gonna try to sell with it as a package.
As I do love the 2500 and how it feels. I'd really like the 7550 for DMR and local police, fire, ems.

I have RX emphasis enabled for the 2500 and makes the audio sound amazing while monitoring fdny/Nypd/ems


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This is one application where I'd prefer a 7550 over a 2500. For one thing, the 7550 (and most gen 2 TRBO radios) have amazing sensitivity. Mine (thank you Gary) has RX sensitivity down to -120dbm.

Plus, ASSuming you get one with Bluetooth, that's a nice plus for covert monitoring.

No argument that the durability is not there when compared to say, an XTS5000 or APX6000/7000, but a 2500...the two are about on par construction wise.

The 7550 is a current product, fully supported. 2500 is a cancelled product.
If there is no P25 in your area, than the 7550 might be a better choice for listening.
 
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The closest P25 nearest to me is New Jersey, if the sensitivity on RX is good, I might go ahead and sell.
I use the dell venue 10 pro tablet with CPS for my programming.

I get everything pretty well from Harlem on the XTS. I get the far ends of queens and Brooklyn loud and clear. I just hope the xpr will perform the same.


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Yes, the RX sens on the 7550 is hotter than a pistol. I figured since it did the whole UHF split, it wouldn't be, but it's amazing what it can hear. So if the radio will lead an easy life, get the 7550. I own both, & here in Florida, we have both DMR, & P25. So I use the 7550 for my DMR comms, & the 2500 for my P25 comms. What's in your wallet, I mean area?
 
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I'm hoping to sell the 2500, and tablet for around $500 and looking to spend $600-$700 with a Bluetooth option, and then I need cps and usb programming cable.
I mostly monitor NYPD/FDNY/EMS analog, but I'm interested in tracking and monitoring the big systems here in NYC as well as private ems and such that had gone DMR.


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To me, the 7550 is a radio that a hotel manager would carry
To you maybe, but reality is much different

. Just because it does not have XTS in its model number does not mean it is not meant for **** and abuse.

while the 7550 belongs in a suit pocket.


Uh oh... Better tell the BM, IW and Mammoet on the refinery Being built, that I am currently working at to ditch the XPR-7550 and go get over priced, crappy P25 gear.

These guys stuff them in a back pocket, or clip it to their fall arrest harness, then go climb 45+ metres in the air on structural steel. They inflict real abuse. These radios are not in a body armour vest, or a leather case. These are on their sides un protected. These radios take a serious beating. Every. Single. Day. Much more of a beating than any cop, firefighter, or paramedic will ever inflict on a radio.

The XPR-7550 is a solid radio. There is likely thousands, if not tens of thousands in use in heavy industrial settings. I see them being carried by the antenna, or speaker mic cord EVERY DAY.
 
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XTS/APX construction

To me, the 7550 is a radio that a hotel manager would carry. While it certainly is at the TOP of the DMR food chain, these radios were never made for LE abuse. The nice thing is the radio does the whole UHF split. No hi, or low split radio line the 2500. But the 2500 is a much more rugged radio, that can do FPP. The only way a 7550 can do FPP is to get Asian FW, & CPS which is not sold in the USA, but could probably be found. I have both radios, & they both work EXCELLENT. But the 2500, in my opinion can take a beating, while the 7550 belongs in a suit pocket.
Moonboots, I have learned a great deal from reading your posts and owe you a debt of gratitude for sharing your experience. I have not seen the tear down of an APX6000, but I do know how the XPR7550 is constructed. I know the XPR is IP68 and Mil-Std 810C-G but I do not like the way the XPR volume pot and channel switch are mounted to the PCB nor do I like the antenna mount. It would really be instructive if you could share what you know about the differences in construction between the XPR and APX portables. Is the APX metal chassis thicker, the polycarbonate for the case thicker/different, the seals different, etc? It seems that an APX6000 costs around 3x what an XPR7550 costs, and I am sincerely curious to see/know/learn about the differences in how the two portables are constructed. Are there circuitry differences that contribute (significantly) to the cost differential as well as the robustness of the APX series? Any specifics or photos or details you could share would be sincerely appreciated. This is simply for my own education and curiosity. Thanks in advance.
 
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The point about volume and switch controls being mounted directly to the PC board has already been made but I'm going to back it up.

To me, having spent several years fixing radios on a daily basis, the dividing line between a heavy duty, rugged radio and a medium duty radio is whether or not the controls are mechanically part of the PC board or if they are in the housing and connected to the radio via a cable.

I've fixed too many XTS2500s which had the PTT switches ripped clean off the PC board, and condemned many other moto radios due to non-repairable damage to the PC board at the antenna mounting block.

The antenna jack and controls do not belong on the PC board on any radio intended for rugged service.

They WILL get jacked up if they are. It's only a matter of time and issuing the radio to the wrong employee.
 
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if you could share what you know about the differences in construction between the XPR and APX portables. Is the APX metal chassis thicker, the polycarbonate for the case thicker/different, the seals different, etc? It seems that an APX6000 costs around 3x what an XPR7550 costs, and I am sincerely curious to see/know/learn about the differences in how the two portables are constructed.
I don't own an APX, & only today did I see any close up at the Motorola booth at APCO. The 7550 next to the APX was like David, & Goliath. There has to be a reason the APX costs 3 times as much. There must be a reason the hotel managers carry 7550's, & not APX radios. There must be a reason the cops carry the APX, & not 7550's. But what do I know. Radios are just a hobby for me, but on weekends I can be found at gun shows selling firearms for the largest FFL in Florida.
 
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There has to be a reason the APX costs 3 times as much.
There IS a reason they cost 3-4 times as much compared to the XPR7550, the main source of sales is government. Simply, why charge the government $1000 when you can charge them 4 times as much.

There must be a reason the hotel managers carry 7550's, & not APX radios.
Interesting, I usually see FRS, RDX, HT Waris, or CP series radios in hotels. How ever, at the refinery under construction I am currently working at, I see Mammoet using XPR7550 radios for the riggers to communicate with the cranes, and there are THOUSANDS of XPR 6850 on a 900MHz connect plus trunk system that are owned by the refinery company. Personally I have a HT-750 that is department issued to me, yet IMO the XPR7550 is a much better built radio.

There must be a reason the cops carry the APX, & not 7550's. But what do I know.

Cause that's what they are issued. If they were issued RDX portables, they would use those...
 
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Will the XPR7550 decode FDNY IDs like the picture below?
I like that feature, it's not necessary but I am just curious.
The photo is of my XTS2000.


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The point about volume and switch controls being mounted directly to the PC board has already been made but I'm going to back it up.

To me, having spent several years fixing radios on a daily basis, the dividing line between a heavy duty, rugged radio and a medium duty radio is whether or not the controls are mechanically part of the PC board or if they are in the housing and connected to the radio via a cable.

I've fixed too many XTS2500s which had the PTT switches ripped clean off the PC board, and condemned many other moto radios due to non-repairable damage to the PC board at the antenna mounting block.

The antenna jack and controls do not belong on the PC board on any radio intended for rugged service.

They WILL get jacked up if they are. It's only a matter of time and issuing the radio to the wrong employee.
Well said. I too have repaired many XTS2500 PTT/side-button switches, volume/channel switches and SMA connectors. It is a ridiculous notion that the XTS2500 is considered a rugged radio. It is not.
 
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