• Effective immediately we will be deleting, without notice, any negative threads or posts that deal with the use of encryption and streaming of scanner audio.

    We've noticed a huge increase in rants and negative posts that revolve around agencies going to encryption due to the broadcasting of scanner audio on the internet. It's now worn out and continues to be the same recycled rants. These rants hijack the threads and derail the conversation. They no longer have a place anywhere on this forum other than in the designated threads in the Rants forum in the Tavern.

    If you violate these guidelines your post will be deleted without notice and an infraction will be issued. We are not against discussion of this issue. You just need to do it in the right place. For example:
    https://forums.radioreference.com/rants/224104-official-thread-live-audio-feeds-scanners-wait-encryption.html

Your ISP is Watching you.

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brandon

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Use encryption for things such as instant messaging and email. Problem solved.
 

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From a provider standpoint, I can tell you we really dont care whats in your emails, or your instant messages etc... The amount of data that passes thru an ISP's network per second would blow your mind. The tools we use to capture traffic, save it and convert the 1's and 0's in a protocol analyzer is very time consuming and resource intensive. So its only used to troubleshoot real problems and not to just sit there wondering what Joe Blow is doing today.
 

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shaft said:
From a provider standpoint, I can tell you we really dont care whats in your emails, or your instant messages etc... The amount of data that passes thru an ISP's network per second would blow your mind. The tools we use to capture traffic, save it and convert the 1's and 0's in a protocol analyzer is very time consuming and resource intensive. So its only used to troubleshoot real problems and not to just sit there wondering what Joe Blow is doing today.

But GreatLakes and BNS don't wanna hear that, all they see is the website article title and say OMG the Government is here to take away our rights..... and lets post it on RR.com.
 

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mmartinfan said:
But GreatLakes and BNS don't wanna hear that, all they see is the website article title and say OMG the Government is here to take away our rights..... and lets post it on RR.com.
Strangely enough, it's not the government that's doing that. I think the main reason this particular article was posted is that some people might not be aware of the power that their ISP presumes to have over you and your connection.

My dad also works as a representative of an ISP provider, and when I sent him the article, he had remarks very similar to what shaft had to say. However, that doesn't at all discount the possibility of various entities (governmental or not) with time, motive, and resources for exploiting the things that were enumerated in the article.

The article did state that there are various laws that apply and would likely protect the user. However, I think it's important to remember that the persons who would have resource to abuse these contracts would also have the resources to make a protracted legal battle. I don't think it's a stretch at all to assume that the average internet user wouldn't have similar resources to win such a battle.

So I have to disagree here; I don't think they just want to cry abou the government taking away our rights, but rather provide us some information we might not have been aware of and that would create some good conversation...oh, yes, and have good conversation on RadioReference.com. Gosh, let's kick 'em right outta town, huh?
 

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They should , especially with people who download porn.

Turn over the list of usernames to the police and let them sieze the hardrives.
 

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shaft said:
When did porn become illegal?
Actually in the Sate Of Indiana it is, some very odd laws on it.
But more interesting is the new law here that allows police to monitor web use by sex offenders, including those who servved their time and are no longer under court supervision or parole/probation. All sex offenders no matter what offence it was must purchase software for each computer they use that allows police to "watch them" whenever they get online. Of course the ACLU says it's Unconstitutional....

A couple of links:

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?s=8146987

http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?s=8166284
 

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shaft said:
Its not illegal for the average citizen though. Sex Offenders fall into a completely differnet catagory.

Did you read the articles? According to the Indiana ACLU even sex offenders have "full rights" once they have served their time, off parole/probation......
I'm not supporting the ACLU, or sex offenders, I'm just pointing out what they claim, personally they should just take em out back and.....well, we wouldn't have to worry about them again or having police waste their time baby sitting them on their computers....
 

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Viper 43 wrote:
"According to the Indiana ACLU even sex offenders have "full rights" once they have served their time, off parole/probation......"

Does this include the right to vote and possess firearms?

I know that a felon possessing a firearm is an automatic 5 years in federal custody. Even someone convicted of MISDEMEANOR, not FELONY, Family Assault cannot possess a firearm. I'm not sure about legally votiing in Indiana. Some states do allow felons that have satisfied their parole/probation terms to petition for their voting rights to be restored. But, possessing firearms remain a big no-no. Some have found ways around the law, such as the spouse having title to the firearm, but, if the convict is found with the firearm in hand, there is that risk.
 

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Viper43 said:
Did you read the articles? According to the Indiana ACLU even sex offenders have "full rights" once they have served their time, off parole/probation......
I'm not supporting the ACLU, or sex offenders, I'm just pointing out what they claim, personally they should just take em out back and.....well, we wouldn't have to worry about them again or having police waste their time baby sitting them on their computers....
i did read the articles, but it mentioned nothing to the fact that possesing, purchasing, or even downloading porn is illegal for people in the state of Indiana.
 

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With the number of people that are on line at any given time, where do they get the manpower to watch everybody?

(Rhetorical question; they can't) :roll:
 
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