RF Perfomance of new models (BCD396XT, BC346XT, BCD996XT, BCT15X)

[KE4ZNR]

Originally Posted by jnewell

1. You need to check the price of the Motos compared to the Uniden.

2. I don't think Marshall's making fun of him. Post #7 above is almost unintelligible.

Thanks jnewell. If that poster would like his cheap shots about Uniden to be taken seriously then he needs to form coherent sentences.

Originally Posted by zguy1243

UPman, you are a Uniden employee of sorts?

UPMan= Uniden Product Manager.
He is Uniden's Product Manager.
Marshall KE4ZNR

[N_Jay]

Originally Posted by zguy1243

Dont tempt me. I have done that a few times already. ..

Well, then do it again, and let us know how it works out for you.

[hfxChris]

Originally Posted by KE4ZNR

Thanks jnewell. If that poster would like his cheap shots about Uniden to be taken seriously then he needs to form coherent sentences.

Can be quite difficult if English isn't ones first language. My French is pretty terrible, but I would hope if I tried to argue my point in French I would still be taken seriously.

[UPMan]

I can safely promise that if we come out with a single band digital trunking scanner for $3,500-$5,000, the performance will be comparable to the Motorola in every respect.

[N_Jay]

Originally Posted by UPMan

I can safely promise that if we come out with a single band digital trunking scanner for $3,500-$5,000, the performance will be comparable to the Motorola in every respect.

Now just get the price down to $500 (and sell enough units to justify the resources)

[kd7rto]

Originally Posted by UPMan

I can safely promise that if we come out with a single band digital trunking scanner for $3,500-$5,000, the performance will be comparable to the Motorola in every respect.

From that remark, it’s apparent that Uniden has decided to ignore consumer dissatisfaction with the RF performance of it’s current product line.

Performance comparable with a Motorola? How about just matching the front end on the old Pro-2006?

People can make fun of pyteen’s English, but the fact that my BC796D gets overloaded when attached to a rooftop antenna, and my BC246T encounters many dead spots as I drive around town, confirms to me that these are indeed entry-level toys.

[kd7rto]

Originally Posted by zguy1243

Right now there is nothing out there but the AOR-5000 and its 3 grand.

You can find them for < $1k used. An outstanding piece of equipment that I highly recommend.

[DaveIN]

Well, the two high end scanner receivers mentioned in the thread title are not even released yet and already being compared to the PRO-2006. The 2006 and it's predecessors are excellent scanners, but do not have trunking or P25 decoding, and have way more memory than 400 channels. The 2006 was ~$400 dollars in 1996. For ~$100 more Uniden has given you all that and more in today's dollar. Perhaps the 2006 should be compared with the PSR-600, it's designed by GRE also and has just the features needed in the same price range and nearly the same RF receiver design. I have no issue with either design and feel they are a welcome addition next to an AOR "receiver" in the next tier.

[UPMan]

From that remark, it’s apparent that Uniden has decided to ignore consumer dissatisfaction with the RF performance of it’s current product line.

Not sure why you would think that we ever ignore our customers. But, the overwhelming opinion is that RF performance is appropriate for our products, given their price. They have decent sensitivity on all bands while still being substantially immune to overload except in the most intense RF environments. In this class of goods (<$1000 multi-band receivers) at the current state-of-the-art, you can have one (high sensitivity) or the other (immunity from overload) but not both (and it is really a sliding scale, as you improve in one direction, expect it to degrade in the other...).

[RoninJoliet]

Here in my area i cannot take my GRE500 in the mobile because it is destroyed near all "cell towers" which results in very bad coverage of the new ILL-Starcom 700/800 Digital System....Now its the Uniden 396XT thats in the front seat, i get NO cell or overload issues with the 396XT...Also with the decoding of digital now set by factory in AUTO the scanner is continuously trying to decode very well on the move....Can't wait for the 996XT...Plus, Uniden has the BEST product manager in the business when it comes to solving problems....

[AZScanner]

Originally Posted by UPMan

I can safely promise that if we come out with a single band digital trunking scanner for $3,500-$5,000, the performance will be comparable to the Motorola in every respect.

I want in on THAT beta!!!

[mancow]

I did a simple test to compare the 396T 396XT and PSR500. All were within 6 inches of each other with the same RS 800 Mhz antenna. The placement was periodically switched to try to account for any variance in signal level due to a small different in placement or interaction. They were all set to receive the same distant 800 Mhz EDACS TRS and talk group.

The 396XT was consistently the best performer. The audio was the clearest with the least amount of "frying". The PSR500 was probably next with the 396T last. One thing I found interesting is that the 396XT exhibited no detectable EDACS end tone at all, nothing. There wasn't even the slightest blip, even with the weakest of signals. It was as solid as the Ericsson M-RK.

[jeff0780]

Originally Posted by AZScanner

I want in on THAT beta!!!

That would be great.

[pyteen]

Billions of flies eat ***** I don't want to do that. Uniden features is very impressive, but front-end is terrible. Everybody who have good radio like motorola can confirm that. I use 3 uniden scanners for different purpose such as track trunk, finding new chanals and no one can compare with motorola. I use outdoor high gain antena, band-pass cavity filter and can't reach a goal. All my scanners lost 90% of useful signals that i can catch with moto with rubber antenna close to window.

Look at this and smile
http://s48.radikal.ru/i121/0906/6a/11edec333ead.gif

[RoninJoliet]

Your comparison is a total joke, $500.00 scanner vs $2M Motorola...A Kia vs a Lexus, for the money paid for a digital trunking scanner on todays market i think both Uniden and GRE have done excellent work promoting the scanning hobby.........

[KE4ZNR]

Originally Posted by pyteen

Billions of flies eat ***** I don't want to do that. Uniden features is very impressive, but front-end is terrible. Everybody who have good radio like motorola can confirm that. I use 3 uniden scanners for different purpose such as track trunk, finding new chanals and no one can compare with motorola. I use outdoor high gain antena, band-pass cavity filter and can't reach a goal. All my scanners lost 90% of useful signals that i can catch with moto with rubber antenna close to window.

Look at this and smile
http://s48.radikal.ru/i121/0906/6a/11edec333ead.gif

And I call B.S. on your comparison. It is obvious that your only intent here is to troll so I will no longer give your posts any attention until you:
1) Learn to spellcheck your posts.
and
2) Learn that you cannot compare a $500 wide range receiver and a $3000 transceiver that is tuned to only one band.
Enjoy your Hard to scan Motorolas with inflexible memory structure while I enjoy my 25,000 channel BCD396xt (with great front end) and the ability to adjust memory storage on the fly.
Marshall KE4ZNR

[KE4ZNR]

Originally Posted by RoninJoliet

Your comparison is a total joke, $500.00 scanner vs $2M Motorola...A Kia vs a Lexus, for the money paid for a digital trunking scanner on todays market i think both Uniden and GRE have done excellent work promoting the scanning hobby.........

+1 billion.
Spot on Ron.
Marshall KE4ZNR

[pyteen]

Originally Posted by RoninJoliet

Your comparison is a total joke, $500.00 scanner vs $2M Motorola...A Kia vs a Lexus, for the money paid for a digital trunking scanner on todays market i think both Uniden and GRE have done excellent work promoting the scanning hobby.........

It's a joke for you. I buy used xts3000 on eBay for $300, plus new housing for $60 and now i get radio like brand new. And i am ready to buy perfect scanner for the big price, but which one?

[pyteen]

Originally Posted by KE4ZNR

And I call B.S. on your comparison. It is obvious that your only intent here is to troll so I will no longer give your posts any attention until you:
1) Learn to spellcheck your posts.
and
2) Learn that you cannot compare a $500 wide range receiver and a $3000 transceiver that is tuned to only one band.
Enjoy your Hard to scan Motorolas with inflexible memory structure while I enjoy my 25,000 channel BCD396xt (with great front end) and the ability to adjust memory storage on the fly.
Marshall KE4ZNR

Let's dont talk about money. Tread is about RF performance.

25000 channels — it's a trick.
How much time it's take to fill out all the channels?

[jnewell]

Let's get back to a constructive discussion rather than BS.