Upman T line scanners Unit ID Upadte - Page 2

Jay911 · #21 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by al95

Only owners of the BCD396T and 996T scanners can post on this thread.

Good luck with that. Let me know how it turns out, ok?

How do I feel about Uniden after what's been said in this thread? Same as I did before. They're a fine company that makes decent scanners. There are some things about their scanners that I wish they'd done differently, but they don't exist solely to please me. So I take what I can get.

--j., owner of a BC235XLT, two BC245XLTs, a BC250D, a BC780XLT, a BC796D, a BCD396T, a BC246T, a BC72, a BCD996T, and a BCD396XT, not to mention a GRE PSR-500, RS PRO-43, PRO-44, PRO-60, PRO-2050, and PRO-2055. Oh, and a Bearcat SP-H/L.

UPMan · #22 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 06:53 PM

I think you are reading more into my reply than what I said. I never said there would never be another update for the BCD996T and BCD396T. I never said that there would be another update for them, either. I cannot discuss updates that have not been announced (which either means that we have one that is not announced or that we don't have one to announce).

We provided necessary firmware updates for the BC296D and BC796D almost 7 years after they were discontinued. I cannot predict what might or might not happen in the next 7 years (else my 401K would be in much better shape).

KE4ZNR · #23 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 07:06 PM

nevermind

Hammer860 · #24 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 08:06 PM

This was your previous post that didnt go over very good

"The first (and only announced) intended for-pay upgrade was the Rebanding update and was, in the end, released for free. As I said in my email, Uniden has announced no additional firmware updates for the BCD396T and BCD996T (and others of that generation)."

Not much to read into that...

DDan · #25 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer860

This was your previous post that didnt go over very good

"The first (and only announced) intended for-pay upgrade was the Rebanding update and was, in the end, released for free. As I said in my email, Uniden has announced no additional firmware updates for the BCD396T and BCD996T (and others of that generation)."

Not much to read into that...

I guess I'm missing something. What is it that you want in an update for the Ts?

KE4ZNR · #26 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 08:29 PM

I still want someone to show me where GRE has released firmware updates for the Pro 96/2096 that give those radios the same features as the Pro 106/Pro 197....must have missed those updates...
Marshall KE4ZNR

rdale · #27 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammer860

I have never posted a negative message but that really sucks. I spend over $1000.00 on two scanners and no more updates. There obsolete...

Why do you say they're obsolete? Mine still work - even with no pay updates.

al95 · #28 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by UPMan

The first (and only announced) intended for-pay upgrade was the Rebanding update and was, in the end, released for free. As I said in my email, Uniden has announced no additional firmware updates for the BCD396T and BCD996T (and others of that generation).

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Originally Posted by UPMan

I think you are reading more into my reply than what I said. I never said there would never be another update for the BCD996T and BCD396T. I never said that there would be another update for them, either. I cannot discuss updates that have not been announced (which either means that we have one that is not announced or that we don't have one to announce).

We provided necessary firmware updates for the BC296D and BC796D almost 7 years after they were discontinued. I cannot predict what might or might not happen in the next 7 years (else my 401K would be in much better shape).

There we go again there might or might not be an update in the future no one knows not even Upman (or maybe he does).
Following is from the newsletter Upman send us

Why Do We Need Your ESN?

As we create new firmware loads for your scanner, we sometimes use information licensed to us by third parties. For those updates, we need to keep careful track of which scanners do and don’t include the update. We might also need to charge for some of these updates in the future, but don’t worry, I’ll make sure that any for-pay update has features you’ll be glad to pay for. Oh, and this first major update is free!
To manage this process, we are setting up a system that will create a registration key for any major update we come out with (a major update changes the first digit of the firmware version…right now we are still in Version 1, but Version 2 is on the horizon and I can almost glimpse a Version 3).
Since the registration key will be generated from your scanner’s ESN, and will be unique for every scanner, getting your ESN right is critical for making your update work (if you use a key for another scanner or don’t enter a key, your scanner will not work until you successfully apply the update with the key).

rdale · #29 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by al95

There we go again there might or might not be an update in the future no one knows not even Upman (or maybe he does).

Is that an update from earlier news?

Jay911 · #30 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by al95

There we go again there might or might not be an update in the future no one knows not even Upman (or maybe he does).

If he said "yes there's an update coming", he would have an official obligation to provide the update. If something happened that meant that Uniden couldn't come through with the update, I suspect you would potentially have a precedence for legal interaction (in other words, you could sue him and/or Uniden). It's not at all unsurprising that he doesn't have any interest in going that route. Frankly, we should be thankful that he bothers to show up on this site and communicate with us at all, considering it is not something that very many retailers bother to do.

ECHO3 · #31 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 10:01 PM

I may be going off subject or back to the original subject. Has Upman or Uniden posted anything "official" regarding this forthcoming firmware upgrade? If so, will/can someone provide a link? Thanks.

KE4ZNR · #32 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ECHO3

I may be going off subject or back to the original subject. Has Upman or Uniden posted anything "official" regarding this forthcoming firmware upgrade? If so, will/can someone provide a link? Thanks.

http://info.uniden.com/twiki/bin/vie...nMan4/WhatsNew

Marshall KE4ZNR

rdale · #33 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay911

If he said "yes there's an update coming", he would have an official obligation to provide the update.

No, he wouldn't, and no, there would be no legal liability. This thread contains nothing we didn't know all along.

ECHO3 · #34 (**permalink**) 11-01-2009, 10:43 PM

Thanks KE4ZNR

petrol88 · #35 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 04:41 AM

UPMan, I don't know why you bother to talk to these silly people. Anythng you say they will take however they want.

You could have rightly said last week that "Uniden has announced no firmware updates for the BCD996XT, BC396XT, BCT15X and BC346XT" and been correct (well, until Friday when you did announce the updates).

I suppose even right now you could say that "Uniden has announced no firmware updates beyond the Unit ID update."

These silly (I'm still using a nice word instead of the word they deserve) people would twist that to mean that everyone is abandoned and we should all cry for them. Well, at least until you do announce the next update at which point Uniden will have announced no firmware update past that one so they'll cry some more.

Now they are also crying about things you said "might" happen after the ESN update...

I might give everyone in this thread a million dollars tomorrow to shut up. Oh, I shouldn't say that, now someone is going to sue me for promising him a million dollars.

DaveIN · #36 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 07:56 AM

It looks like an all a cart upgrade program was explored and found to be unprofitable due to the amount of programming and or hardware restraints, so the effort was put into the new XT models instead. I personally think the new XT models are different and improved enough to warrant replacement of the classic "T" models.

Unless the "T" series radio can no longer TrunkTrack a system because of a decoding problem, why would Uniden update the firmware, now that the XT series is available?

sjlamb · #37 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 08:09 AM

Remember the days when you bought a scanner and that was the end of it? It had features and functions when it left the store and that was the best it was ever going to be. No updates, no firmware improvements, no new features. It was what it was.

You buy a new radio because you like its' capabilities out of the box (at least that should be the reason you bought it) ..... everything that MIGHT come after that is pure gravy. I love both my 396XT and 996XT. Each has exceeded my expectations as they were when they arrived. If Uniden provides future improvements via firmware updates... well, that's just way cool. If not; they still delivered the goods on the product as released. I feel no "spoiled child" sense of future entitlement.

KE4ZNR · #38 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 08:14 AM

I just won't be happy until my BC235xlt gets RID display! I mean I purchased it only 12 years ago! If I had known back then that Uniden would not support it only 12 years after its release I would never have purchased it in the first place! Where is my firmware update for my BC235xlt???

Marshall KE4ZNR

sjlamb · #39 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KE4ZNR

I just won't be happy until my BC235xlt gets RID display! I mean I purchased it only 12 years ago! If I had known back then that Uniden would not support it only 12 years after its release I would never have purchased it in the first place! Where is my firmware update for my BC235xlt???

Marshall KE4ZNR

Your expectation here is both reasonable and well stated.... I retract my earlier comments

ps... when can I expect an update for my beloved 200XLT?

DaveIN · #40 (**permalink**) 11-02-2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KE4ZNR

I just won't be happy until my BC235xlt gets RID display! I mean I purchased it only 12 years ago! If I had known back then that Uniden would not support it only 12 years after its release I would never have purchased it in the first place! Where is my firmware update for my BC235xlt???

Marshall KE4ZNR

Well, maybe the temporal vortex will open when you turn on your Infinite Improbability Drive and you'll discover that the firmware on your pre 2004 radio, that was never upgradeable to begin with, will work in the future on rebanded systems, decode digital encoded audio, and not feed your grandmother to the ravenous bugbladder beast of Traal...