Next Generation Scanners

[buddrousa]

You people are forgetting the big part NEXEDGE AND TURBO are property of Kenwood and Motorola so to use this means you have to pay Kenwood and Motorola if they are willing to sell the rights.

[mlmummert]

Originally Posted by buddrousa

You people are forgetting the big part NEXEDGE AND TURBO are property of Kenwood and Motorola so to use this means you have to pay Kenwood and Motorola if they are willing to sell the rights.

MOTOTRBO yes. Is NXDN an open standard or not?

[ka3jjz]

I could be wrong, but I thought I read sometime this past summer that NXDN was released as open source.

Now if scanner manufacturers will put this in their scanners, that's a totally different ball game...Mike

[W9BU]

The NXDN standard was jointly developed by Icom and Kenwood. I believe the standard is still the intellectual property of the NXDN Forum of which there are many members (Who are our members? | Our Members | NXDN Forum Website). However, the NXDN standard is, as of today, freely downloadable from the NXDN Forum web site (https://www.nxdn-forum.com/download_file/).

[MikeOxlong]

Originally Posted by buddrousa

You people are forgetting the big part NEXEDGE AND TURBO are property of Kenwood and Motorola so to use this means you have to pay Kenwood and Motorola if they are willing to sell the rights.

TRBO is an extension of the ETSI DMR standard. Many manufacturers are producing DMR radios that work fine on TRBO systems without paying Motorola anything for the rights.

I think others have already pointed out your statement on NEXEDGE/IDAS is incorrect as well.

[dupree617]

It sure would be nice to have a scanner that can decode all forums of P-25, Mototrbo and NXDN. This along with all of the great things that you find on top of the line scanners these days. My concern though with GRE out of the market right now. Such radios could cost as much as a APEX radio. If it be that, I'll wait. I surely not want that badly.

Mike Dupree

[Skud]

Originally Posted by dupree617

It sure would be nice to have a scanner that can decode all forums of P-25, Mototrbo and NXDN. This along with all of the great things that you find on top of the line scanners these days. My concern though with GRE out of the market right now. Such radios could cost as much as a APEX radio. If it be that, I'll wait. I surely not want that badly.

Mike Dupree

I agree but add in MTP-1327 as that is poping up here in Michigan but keep me with a full keyboard like the 396 and PSR500. I thought about a 800 but without a keyboard, I am holding off. Oh yeah, how about longer alpha tags, and if the tag is too long, it can scroll it on the screen.

[whacker]

I've just stumbled across this whole subject, as a nearby casino has Moto TRBO and a small city transit company went with what I'm assuming is Kenwood Nexedge (NXDN). I started hearing digital motorboating sounds on otherwise standard, original legacy frequencies (non-trunking), and have started to do some research. I'd like to know more about SDR (software defined radio?) and how to implement it at home at least.

It seems like eventually you could have some sort of tablet computer that had enough resources/processing power to incorporate SDR as a running function, which would make it quite portable, although not pocket sized.

[AZScanner]

Originally Posted by whacker

It seems like eventually you could have some sort of tablet computer that had enough resources/processing power to incorporate SDR as a running function, which would make it quite portable, although not pocket sized.

This is where Uniden and GRE should be looking next. There's no need to build a scanner that can scan this, that and everything else out of the box - just give us a hardware platform that we can add our own software to,such as GNURadio with the appropriate modules needed to monitor whatever we want to use them for and off we go. Less expense and hassle for them in terms of licensing and more flexibility for the end user.

-AZ

[scannerman71]

Originally Posted by AZScanner

This is where Uniden and GRE should be looking next. There's no need to build a scanner that can scan this, that and everything else out of the box - just give us a hardware platform that we can add our own software to,such as GNURadio with the appropriate modules needed to monitor whatever we want to use them for and off we go. Less expense and hassle for them in terms of licensing and more flexibility for the end user.

-AZ

SDR, such as Winradio cannot do Nxdn or motorturbo PERIOD. and GNURadio is too complicated to use.

[sffire]

How about a scanner with built in bluetooth so we can hear it on a earpiece.

[cronst10]

The next generation scanner, just keep your eyes on the state databases and that should be enough info to show you where the next generation is headed.

[AZScanner]

Originally Posted by KG4EMJ

The only people who are going to want to fool with a PC and decoding software and getting everything working properly are going to be your REALLY hard core hobbyists and enthusiasts, and there aren't hardly enough of those people around to keep the hobby alive forever.

Hey..... I resemble that remark!

The way I see it, digital radio and encryption is going to drive everyone but the hardcore hobbyists away one day anyway, so it's best to take the plunge now and learn all this new fangled SDR stuff before it all goes away and the only way to listen in will be to hang out in the lobby of the police station all day with a magic microphone.

-AZ