Uniden In Ms

[Smokenjoe7878]

I have spent the best part of 700$ on the uniden BCD996XT , Gps,Antenna, Programming , So if I want to hear 2 counties Lauderdale & Clarke counties Mississippi, I cannot for the life of me understand that these are the only 2 counties that donot work ? I called the manufactrue no answer, I called Scanner Master Bought Programming & Cable all not included they informed me that I didnt need to order the PRS 800, I should could and would nt need it so someone please tell me the secret why so hush hush If you are in the Business of selling products why tell me Why do I need to buy all the Accesories to make it only prove in this area the Bct15X WORKS CIRCLES around my BCD 996XT? THIS county aint special I can hear the whole State of Mississippi Period Highway Patrol, you name it But not Clarke or Lauderdale Mississippi any one no Why is there an update for this Bcd996xt Digital Scanner?

[jimg]

You might want to post in the Mississippi forum to see if someone in the State, or your area, can help you.

[captclint]

You are right. From what I can see, both counties are conventional which is fairly easy to program. Since you have the 15X, you should be very familiar with how to program the 996 (they should be nearly identical using software). Did you download these county frequencies from RR in to you software? If so, what software? If not, did you create a system for both, or one system for each of them? Are you sure if you assigned quick keys to each system, that they are not turned off?

[Smokenjoe7878]

Originally Posted by jimg

You might want to post in the Mississippi forum to see if someone in the State, or your area, can help you.

they say buy thr PRS800

[tampatracker]

Perhaps this will help if it's a programming issue Easier to Read BCD996XT Digital Scanner Manual

[kirk23]

i just checked both counties.. all your County & Town freqs are monitorable with your 996XT,, it's ONLY the NEW State P-25 System (M.I.W.I.N.) that won't work.. it is on the Phase II TDMA platform .. at this moment the only radio will work on this system is the GRE PSR-800.
the 396XT/996XT predate the creation of this PHASE II TDMA type of system..Sorry

[bee]

Does this mean my Home Patrol, and my PSR 500, might be worthless in Mississippi?

[Avery93]

Originally Posted by Smokenjoe7878

I have spent the best part of 700$ on the uniden BCD996XT , Gps,Antenna, Programming , So if I want to hear 2 counties Lauderdale & Clarke counties Mississippi, I cannot for the life of me understand that these are the only 2 counties that donot work ? I called the manufactrue no answer, I called Scanner Master Bought Programming & Cable all not included they informed me that I didnt need to order the PRS 800, I should could and would nt need it so someone please tell me the secret why so hush hush If you are in the Business of selling products why tell me Why do I need to buy all the Accesories to make it only prove in this area the Bct15X WORKS CIRCLES around my BCD 996XT? THIS county aint special I can hear the whole State of Mississippi Period Highway Patrol, you name it But not Clarke or Lauderdale Mississippi any one no Why is there an update for this Bcd996xt Digital Scanner?

I seem to recall reading that Lauderdale County is leasing radios on the CommSouth MotoTRBO trunking system, which unfortunately cannot be monitored by current scanners. At that time the city of Meridian was also in the process of, or had already built out their own UHF MotoTRBO trunking system, and Clarke County currently has a license for the same type system.

I would still scan all of the old conventional frequencies, as they may occasionally be used for mutual aid, or there could be some agencies still using them primarily.

Originally Posted by bee

Does this mean my Home Patrol, and my PSR 500, might be worthless in Mississippi?

As of right now, no. There are only a few talkgroups (mostly Fish & Wildlife and the Forestry Commission) on the system using Phase II TDMA. In the future, there will be heavier use of TDMA by more agencies, but for now the vast majority of traffic is still FDMA.

In the Northeast part of the state, I have only logged about five TDMA channel grants, all from Fish & Wildlife. I heard MFC a couple days ago and they are still using FDMA in this part of the state.

[MississippiPI]

Okay, I was in Lauderdale County the other nite and keyed up on my radio to advise the county EOC of a wreck on hwy 19 and got no response; that might explain why...I'm a volunteer and have most of the eoc's and fd's in my radio..


Be safe

[hiegtx]

Originally Posted by kirk23

i just checked both counties.. all your County & Town freqs are monitorable with your 996XT,, it's ONLY the NEW State P-25 System (M.I.W.I.N.) that won't work.. it is on the Phase II TDMA platform .. at this moment the only radio will work on this system is the GRE PSR-800.
the 396XT/996XT predate the creation of this PHASE II TDMA type of system..Sorry

That statement may be a bit premature, at this point.

Originally Posted by bee

Does this mean my Home Patrol, and my PSR 500, might be worthless in Mississippi?

I'm not in Missiissippi, but I think that, for now, you should be able to monitor all the talkgroups that are tagged with a D in the Mode column. If you have your PSR-500, and Home Patrol, already programmed for MSWIN, and are hearing traffic, then you have confirmed this in your area. For now, it appears no new scanner is needed.

MSWIN is much like TxWARN P25, in that is flagged in the database as a Type II system, because the system itself is capable of handling Phase II, TDMA capable, talkgroups. Those would be tagged in the database with a T in the Mode column. Currently, for MSWIN, I only see TGID's labeled as D (digital, as in Phase I, which your PSR-500 or HP-1 will handle), or with an E, for encrypted, which no scanner will hear. If, at some point more of those digital ("D" labeled) talkgroups change over to Phase II, and are flagged as "T" instead of D, then at that point you would need a PSR-800, or a yet to be released Phase II capable scanner (whether Uniden announces one, or a revived GRE produces a new model).

However, if none of the talkgroups that interest you make the conversion (at least, not immediately), then no new scanner is required. Take a look at TxWARN P25. It has the same disclaimer message as MSWIN:

Some talkgroups on this system are using Project 25 Phase II TDMA modulation which can ONLY be monitored using a GRE PSR-800

However, unlike MSWIN, indeed some of it's talkgroups are using Phase II- TDMA, and are labeled with a T in the Mode column. But all of those "T" talkgroups, so far, are in the Houston/Harris County area. None in the part of the system that extends into North & East Texas along the I-20 corridor. I listen to the Kaufman site on this system, and have no trouble hearing traffic from there, all of which is "D" (digital), not "T" Phase II-TDMA capable.

At some point, yes, they could convert more, if not all, of the TxWARN P25 talkgroups to TDMA. If & when that happens, I will need a new unit of some sort. I already know that will be the case, as Irving, here in the DFW area, is building a new system to replace their current EDACS TRS. That system was announced as going to be built as a Phase II.

[KE5TLF]

Originally Posted by bee

Does this mean my Home Patrol, and my PSR 500, might be worthless in Mississippi?

LOL, yeah they'll always be useless for TRBO...(which Lauderdale and Clarke use) (well you could tap the 500 and use it with DSD)

Originally Posted by Avery93

I seem to recall reading that Lauderdale County is leasing radios on the CommSouth MotoTRBO trunking system, which unfortunately cannot be monitored by current scanners. At that time the city of Meridian was also in the process of, or had already built out their own UHF MotoTRBO trunking system, and Clarke County currently has a license for the same type system.

Exatly, and fairly well documented in the MS forum. (where this topic really belongs)

Originally Posted by Avery93

As of right now, no. There are only a few talkgroups (mostly Fish & Wildlife and the Forestry Commission) on the system using Phase II TDMA. In the future, there will be heavier use of TDMA by more agencies, but for now the vast majority of traffic is still FDMA.

In the Northeast part of the state, I have only logged about five TDMA channel grants, all from Fish & Wildlife. I heard MFC a couple days ago and they are still using FDMA in this part of the state.

As we've also discussed (I think?) on the MS forum not all sites have TDMA turned up yet. One radio affiliated on any FDMA only tower sets the whole TG to FDMA. MDWF&P and MFC flip flop between modes all day long as they move around due to this.