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Old 02-03-2013, 1:13 PM
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Default BCD996T REC out issue

I've got a BCD996T with a 3.5mm audio cable run from the scanner REC out to the aux in on a stereo in another room. The remote audio will play the first 5-10 seconds of a transmission and then cut out. The audio from the scanner does not do this, only the remote audio. Any ideas what might be going on? Thinking about trying the EXT Speaker jack (to the remote stereo aux in), would I need to include some type of isolation transformer to do that?
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Old 02-03-2013, 6:50 PM
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Are you just trying to listen to the scanner on the stereo in a different room? I would not use Rec Out for that. Rec Out is only supposed to output audio on channels that you have programmed to do so. Not sure why it would start for a bit, then stop though.

You should not need any transformer to plug the ext speaker output into your stereo. Just don't turn up the volume on the scanner very loud or you will get clipping on the line in of your stereo.

The difference in the setup is that you will hear nothing from the scanner speaker when you plug in to the Ext Speaker.
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:39 PM
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Are you just trying to listen to the scanner on the stereo in a different room? I would not use Rec Out for that. Rec Out is only supposed to output audio on channels that you have programmed to do so. Not sure why it would start for a bit, then stop though.

You should not need any transformer to plug the ext speaker output into your stereo. Just don't turn up the volume on the scanner very loud or you will get clipping on the line in of your stereo.

The difference in the setup is that you will hear nothing from the scanner speaker when you plug in to the Ext Speaker.
Yes, I want to listen upstairs (from scanner speaker) and down (from stereo aux).

I have the REC out set to all, which sends everything regardless of per channel record settings. For some reason I was thinking that the audio circuit on the EXT speaker is a floating ground. It also disables the internal speaker when an "EXT Speaker" is plugged in....I can fix that though.
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Old 02-04-2013, 12:57 AM
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Yes, I want to listen upstairs (from scanner speaker) and down (from stereo aux).

I have the REC out set to all, which sends everything regardless of per channel record settings. For some reason I was thinking that the audio circuit on the EXT speaker is a floating ground. It also disables the internal speaker when an "EXT Speaker" is plugged in....I can fix that though.
My 996XT does not behave like yours is doing. Mine outputs the audio from the remote jack and never cuts out. That is what that jack was made for plus as you know, you can deselect some channels if you don't want to hear them out the remote jack.

I myself would not use the speaker output for feeding the line in. The levels and impedance are way off for one and you do run the risk of burning something open at the input jack on the stereo.
It would be better to build a breakout box so you can still hear the scanner audio at the scanner and then use a resistor for another jack to at least limit the audio that can hit your stereo if you cannot fix the rec out jack first.
I'd try and fix the record out problem first though as that is by far the proper way to extract audio to an external amplifier. It is fixed level also unlike the external speaker jack.

If you can't figure out the remote jack problem, then use the headphone out instead if the external speaker out. The headphone out is at least limited so you have less chance of frying something in the stereo.
I've used my record out jack on my 996T and XT for years to feed an external amp in another room and never had a singe problem with it.

Not sure why davidmc36 said you should not use the rec out jack as that is really its intended purpose, to feed line level inputs!
You already know you must select rec out for each channel or as a group so it should work fine. I know there are mutiple places that you can enable/disable the rec out jack so I'd double check them in your programming and then dump the programming back into the 996 maybe even after doing a reset to defaults.
My 996 has developed a new problem where the control channel data output setting is not sticking. I enable it and then later after I've turned the 996 off and back on, the control channel output is back to disabled.
Not sure what is causing this as it has always remained enabled in the past. I noticed it started doing this after I installed the latest firmware but not certain that is the real cause. I do plan on reverting back to the prior firmware and checking though when I have time.

Do you have some type of priority activated that could be interrupting the rec out audio? I've never seen that but maybe it is a bug that has never been reported before. Or maybe something with the latest firmware changed something. Try resending your programming after you make sure all your rec out settings are turned on. I'd even reset to defaults first and then dump your programming back into the 996.

I have seen some modern day amps and stereos that will shut down inputs if no signal is detected for a short time. They actually shut down the main amp section to conserve power like most modern TV's turn themselves off if there is no video signal after 15 or 30 seconds. Is it possible that is what is going on?
The REC out jack does not put out much of a signal so an external amp may think there is no signal but it should be plenty unless there is a long pause with no audio. Does your stereo have any power saving features that may be shutting the amp section down if it does not detect a signal?
Turn that feature off if possible.

Has this same setup worked in the past and have you changed anything if it did work in the past? I know the 996 outputs audio just fine out the rec out jack as long as it is enabled for everything. It can be enabled per channel for use when scanning plus it can be enabled for during searches and even enabled for the weather functions. I don't think there are any settings where the rec out cannot be activated really.
That's always been one of my gripes with the GRE models like the PSR-600, no line out or rec out. I had to search and add my own line out on a PSR 600. All radios should have a fixed line level output. And the way Uniden did it is even better as it lets you select what you want to come out of that jack.

If you cannot make it (rec out jack) work then do use the headphone output instead of the external speaker out. Much less chance of blowing something at the line in circuit in the stereo as the headphone jack output is limited in power mainly. It also uses a slightly higher impedance but not by much so you may still get distorted sound. I think the headphone out is looking for a 32 ohm load while the speaker out is looking for 4 or 8 ohms.
The rec out should be at 10,000 ohms.
A 2 watt audio signal from the ext speaker jack into a line in jack with as little as 1/4 watt resistors in your amps input is asking for problems along with distorted audio from the impedance mismatch. I would not risk it if it is an expensive amp.
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Not sure why davidmc36 said you should not use the rec out jack as that is really its intended purpose, to feed line level inputs!
Because it is fixed level and I have found the headphone to be too low for some inputs. Just don''t turn it up too far.

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Because it is fixed level and I have found the headphone to be too low for some inputs. Just don''t turn it up too far.

YMMV
Any decent amp should be able to recover fixed line level audio with no problem. You are feeding an 8 ohm output capable of supplying 2 watts or more into an input that is expecting millivolts at 10,000 ohms.

You should be able to drive the external amp at full power no problem using the line level output from the 996 into the line in on your amp.

I will admit that I use pro audio gear from a movie theatre. I used to do pro sound work so I've aquired quite a lot of pro audio gear over the years.

I come from the days when if you powered up an amp with no speaker attached, bye bye final amp transistor(s). Today's amps have hybrid outputs that can usually handle those situations.
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Here is a suggestion from my experiences with my set up, you decide if this works out for you.
Since I'm into home recording ( I have a small home studio set up), I like to find different uses for my gear when not being used for music. Here is one gadget I use with my scanning gear that works really well and is not really a wallet killer. It is the Lexicon brand, Omega. It has 4 individual jacks for each scanner. (I use 4 through rec. out jacks) Separate gain for each. USB out to computer or audio out jacks ( L/R channels) to go directly to your stereos' input or line in jacks ( or external amplified speakers). You can actually do both USB and line out simultaneously if you wanted to. The output level pot lets you control the amount of audio going into your device so as not to overdrive it. Take a look at the pictures below:

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