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Old 07-17-2018, 3:51 PM
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Default Utah Comms eventually going P-25

So word has it in about a year or two the UCA systems will be switched out to P-25, now here is the pondering, will they go phase l or ll and do you think they will start rolling out Encrypted comms? Curious as to what other's thoughts are on this. I work on the county level and I hear chatter but nothing solid and I'm also a radio/scanner- enthusiast/hobbyist so for personal listening I'm also curious as to the direction the system will go.
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So word has it in about a year or two the UCA systems will be switched out to P-25, now here is the pondering, will they go phase l or ll and do you think they will start rolling out Encrypted comms? Curious as to what other's thoughts are on this. I work on the county level and I hear chatter but nothing solid and I'm also a radio/scanner- enthusiast/hobbyist so for personal listening I'm also curious as to the direction the system will go.
I highly doubt it--- Cost to much and every news channel in the country uses scanners for there broadcasting.
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Old 08-02-2018, 7:16 PM
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I don't live in Utah so I don't know much about the budgetary constraints......but living in a state which is rapidly migrating to encryption (probably close to 1/4 of the state now has encrypted LE)....money seems to be no object when departments want it. As far as the media is concerned...as long as they get a department issued radio, they won't utter a peep. I hope your state doesn't go this route but such is the country we live in now.

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So word has it in about a year or two the UCA systems will be switched out to P-25, now here is the pondering, will they go phase l or ll and do you think they will start rolling out Encrypted comms? Curious as to what other's thoughts are on this. I work on the county level and I hear chatter but nothing solid and I'm also a radio/scanner- enthusiast/hobbyist so for personal listening I'm also curious as to the direction the system will go.
I would say since its a statewide agency most likely they will utilize their XTS 5000 radios which still work as their main work horse. As time passes they will eventually phase out to APX as to what they are already most likely doing.

So my bet is that they go Phase I and roll that direction. They can use their existing radios and also use APX radios. If they go Phase II TDMA then they are stuck replacing all of their mobile and HT radios.

As to encryption I bet anything is on the table moving forward in two years from now. Most likely and I can bet the farm on it that they will implement more encryption because this is the world we live in today with security and locking down systems. There is no way around it moving forward. Everybody is on-board with Encryption and that's the end of the story.
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Weber county agencies are looking into digital radios.....they haven’t made any purchases though.
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As far as the media is concerned...as long as they get a department issued radio, they won't utter a peep.
Not even all media get privy to encrypted radios. In my town (Russellville, Arkansas) not even the local media are allowed to listen to police radio traffic. The police are free to issue sanitized press releases as they please about crime events in the community. Who's gonna know otherwise?
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Going to p25 Digital... Almost certainly.

Encrypted.... That's a different monster and will be agency by agency.
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I know some media do not get issued radios and most, not all of the ones that don't complain loud and long. Again I say MOST. That's the point of the whole debate...."who's gonna know otherwise?" Nobody. You get your info through a huge, sanitized filter which covers up all manner of questionable activity.

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I would say since its a statewide agency most likely they will utilize their XTS 5000 radios which still work as their main work horse. As time passes they will eventually phase out to APX as to what they are already most likely doing.



So my bet is that they go Phase I and roll that direction. They can use their existing radios and also use APX radios. If they go Phase II TDMA then they are stuck replacing all of their mobile and HT radios.



That’s only if their existing radios are flashed for 9600 bps trunking. If they are only flashed for conventional or 3600 bps trunking they will have to be replaced as Motorola no longer sells flash upgrades for the Astro 25 line. Also, depot support for the Astro 25 line will stop in the next few months and Motorola will only continue to sell components for the radios until stock is depleted.

We are in the final days for manufacturer support on Astro 25 subscribers.



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The new P25 will have to have New APX or Harris Radios to work. I say Harris because there is possibility they could win the contract for a state wide digital radio system
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The new P25 will have to have New APX or Harris Radios to work. I say Harris because there is possibility they could win the contract for a state wide digital radio system


Or Tait or Kenwood or BK/Relm. Harris and Motorola are not the only game in town for P25. They just happen to be the most expensive.


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