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Old 07-08-2014, 6:17 PM
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Default Spanish Lady Numbers station on 8.136 MHz LSB

There is a "Spanish Lady" Numbers Station on
8.136 MHz LSB "under" another digital transmission/CW.

It's not continuous. She will come on and announce a few numbers in spanish and then breaks.
There is a CW transmission going on at the same time continuously. If anyone can tune it in, see what you can hear.
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HM01 except no upper side band or Carrier
Don't know what the numbers folks will call it.
http://priyom.org/number-stations/digital/hm01.aspx
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This is still HM01, just a probable error. Pretty much every Cuban numbers station has been seen in LSB at one time or another, and it is not all that uncommon, you see them do this several times a year. USB errors have also been seen, but are uncommon.

Probable cause:

Cuban numbers station M08a (the Morse code sister station to HM01 and V02a) has two major modes of operation, MCW and ICW. MCW is full Double Sideband with carrier (normal old AM) and using a 1 kHz tone to make the dits and dahs. So it has a carrier and can be received with a regular old AM radio. The ICW is interrupted CW. The Cubans appear to use two different methods to get the ICW. One is just keying a carrier off and on, just like any other CW station does it. That technique appears to be used less and less by the Cubans. The other way to make ICW looks / sounds like regular CW with the RF keyed on and off, but it is not. The Cubans do not key the carrier, but rather use the transmitter in a sideband mode and the same 1 kHz tone as they use with MCW. They typically use the transmitter in LSB mode to do this.

Most, but certainly not all, odd LSB HM01 and V02a transmissions seem to follow M08a ICW transmissions. The Cubans are probably leaving the transmitter in LSB mode from the previous transmission and then starting what is supposed to be a full AM transmission. Indeed I have recordings of such transmissions starting in LSB and several minutes into the message switching to AM. One time I saw them start in LSB for several minutes, switch to USB for a minute or two, and then end the transmission in AM, they covered all bases that day

M08 is not the only numbers station that uses an SSB transmitter and audio tone to make CW, the Chinese station M95 does the same thing at times, and one of the Russian M stations uses USB in the same way. Sometimes you can tell such transmissions by the appearance of an image / audio harmonic CW signal. An example would be with the transmitter tuned to 8137 kHz in LSB, a 1 kHz audio tone would make CW that appears to be on 8136 kHz, and there might be harmonics of the audio dits and dahs at 8135 and possibly 8134 kHz.

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Not sure if this is normal or not. Heard on 11.530 USB Spanish lady repeating numbers. Then pauses , with what sounded like old VHF type paging tones. This was on 7-20-14. Around 1900 UTC. Mike
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Haley, check the link I posted above, it has samples. You have heard Cuban Intelligence and one of their versions of spy numbers.
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Haley:

Was this what you heard? As described above, It's HM01

11530 Khz Am HMO1 Cuba Spy Numbers Sign on and Partial Sked - YouTube

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n0nhp, that's a great link! Going to take me a while to dig through it, but I'm looking forward to it.

Tony, that is exactly what I heard , except she would read about 5-6 numbers , then a page type tone would come on. Over and over and over. Went on for 10 mins. or more. And it was USB for sure, I flipped through AM and LSB. Not as clear as USB.

I was just standing on my yard using my old DX398 with the whip antenna checking for GHFS traffic, got bored and started tuning. Conditions must have been pretty good, I am in the middle of Iowa. Thanks for the info and replies! Mike
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