does anyone have any update info on Va Beach fire and rescue talk

[tommyandamanda21]

here is old info from 2003 from Kempsville rescue...

i want to pick up the tac channels during emergencies andalso dispatch 155.175 at all times.. can you do it...

i have the rs pro-433



here is the old info

We sometimes use the Fire & EMS Talk-Around channel for line-of-sight communications. It's frequency is 852.4125.

Information for use with trunk-tracking scanners
NOTE

At 0900 Tue 7 October 2003, the City of Virginia Beach switched EMS and fire communications to Type II talk groups. The city has not yet programmed the intended final channel plans into all the city's radios, nor has it published directives regarding the intended use or common name of each talk group. Until the channel plans and usage directives stabilize, this page will list talk groups that may be used by KVRS personnel, in no particular order.


The City of Virginia Beach operates a Motorola hybrid (Type I/II) analog trunked radio system. To program your trunk tracker to monitor our communications, you'll need the list of output frequencies (shown above) and the list of talk group IDs shown below.

Talk Group IDs (Type II)
45872 EMS PRIMARY
37936 FIRE 1
38928 FIRE 2
38960 FIRE 3
38992 FIRE 4
39024 FIRE 5
39056 FIRE 6
39088 FIRE 7
37712 ANNOUNCE GROUP EMS*
37904 VIRGINIA BEACH GENERAL
38704 LEIGH
38736 BAYSIDE
38896 HEAR PATCH
38768 EMS 4
38800 EMS 5
38832 EMS 6
38864 EMS 7
38672 EMERGENCY SERVICES

*It is believed that the term Announce Group refers to a feature (rarely used, if ever) that allows a dispatcher to simulcast over several talk groups. It is doubtful that this is actually intended to be a talk group in the conventional sense. Nevertheless, this entry appears in several available lists, so KVRS is including it here.

The old Type I information is published here until the Type II conversion has stabilized:

Fleet Map

(based on the programming codes used by Uniden and Radio Shack TrunkTracker scanners)

Block 0 2 4 5 6
Size Code S12 S12 S0 S4 S12



Talk Group IDs (Type I)
600-1 FIRE COMMAND
600-2 EMS COMMAND
600-3 TAC 3
600-4 TAC 4
600-5 TAC 5
600-6 TAC 6
600-7 TAC 7
600-8 TAC 8
600-9 INTERCITY PATCH
600-10 FIRE PREVENTION
600-11 FIRE ADMIN
600-12 EMERGENCY SERVICES
600-13 FPR-COMMAND
600-14 H.E.A.R. PATCH
600-15 EMS ADMIN

More information is available on Jeremiah Toth's City of Virginia Beach page and at TrunkTracker.com.

Monitoring our "medical control" communications

[kc4jgc]

The information you're looking for can be found at the new HRSP site; the link is in my signature. Jeremiah relinquished the HRSP 2 years ago; I picked it up and established the new URL for it. Everything has been updated.

The talkaround is a conventional channel; do not program as a trunked freq.

[tommyandamanda21]

how do you add all the tac channels?????

see i want to be able to scan 155.175 and all tac channels at the same time.. can you do that????


tommy, va beach

[Don_Burke]

Originally Posted by tommyandamanda21

how do you add all the tac channels?????

see i want to be able to scan 155.175 and all tac channels at the same time.. can you do that????

As I recall there is one actual fire talkaround channel and several "TAC" talkgroups. You can put it all in a single bank.

The whole Virginia Beach system fits into a single bank on a Pro-97, although I sure wish there were more sub-banks in the 97 so I could organize the talkgroups better.

[fmon]

Originally Posted by tommyandamanda21

how do you add all the tac channels?????

see i want to be able to scan 155.175 and all tac channels at the same time.. can you do that????


tommy, va beach

Tommy,

Using Butel ARC433 software, I just imported 28 Fire/EMS/Emg talkgroups and the 20 trunked frequencis into bank 1 for the scanner. Then imported the two conventional Fire Talkarounds and the pager frequency as indicated.

Frequencies and tags

860.7375    On    On        Primary
860.4875    On    On        Primary
859.7375    On    On        Primary
859.4875    On    On        Primary
858.7375    On    On        Primary
858.4875    On    On        Primary
857.7375    On    On        Primary
857.4875    On    On        Primary
856.7375    On    On        Primary
856.4875    On    On        Primary
860.7125    On    On        Primary
860.4625    On    On        Primary
859.7125    On    On        Primary
859.4625    On    On        Primary
858.7125    On    On        Primary
858.4625    On    On        Primary
857.7125    On    On        Primary
857.4625    On    On        Primary
856.7125    On    On        Primary
856.4625    On    On        Primary
                
                
                
852.41250                Fire Talk-Around
155.17500                EMS(simulcastfro
154.37000                Fire Paging Data

Talkgroups and tags

39472    EMGMGT-AG
39504    EM-TAC 1
39536    EM-TAC 2
39568    EM-TAC 3
39600    EM-TAC 4
39632    EM-TAC 5
39664    EM-TAC 6
39696    EM-TAC 7
39728    EM-TAC 8
37904    VB-GEN
38736    BAYSIDE
38896    P-ANN
45872    EMS CMD
45904    EMS ADMIN
37744    AG-FIRE
37936    FIRE CMD
38928    FD TAC 3
38960    FD TAC 4
38992    FD TAC 5
39024    FD TAC 6
39056    FD TAC 7
39088    FD TAC 8
45712    FD TAC 9
45744    FD TAC 10
45776    INC CMD 1
45808    INC CMD 2
45840    FD MARSHAL
46224    EMG-SVC-15

Your dispolay will indicate the tags.

[tommyandamanda21]

is the arc 433 needed???

also do i need too add all the 800 mhz channels then add all the talk groups???

hope this is not difficult... i get the 433 today thursday... i have had serval regular hand helds... but this will be first for this....

what are we calling a bank one....

just trying to learn

can you manually put them in or is it easier to get it arc 433 and download it to the scanner???

[RagnarD]

Hi TommyandAmanda,

Check your PM's

73
de
chris
kq4z

[tglendye]

You're doing fine. Follow Steve's link to http://www.geocities.com/scanseva/ and then follow the links to va beach. Start off by putting the control channels in only. They are the ones in the red, and there are 4. I've never used a pro433, but if it's like the other RS scanners you'll probably need to select the mode (motorola for this one) and then enter the talk groups.

[Don_Burke]

Originally Posted by tommyandamanda21

is the arc 433 needed???

also do i need too add all the 800 mhz channels then add all the talk groups???

hope this is not difficult... i get the 433 today thursday... i have had serval regular hand helds... but this will be first for this....

what are we calling a bank one....

just trying to learn

can you manually put them in or is it easier to get it arc 433 and download it to the scanner???

Using scanner loading software is quite a bit easier than manual loading.

I would like to see us kick this around a little here on the forum until someone who already has the software pipes up. If you can get your first loadup done, it will get you on the air and the software can wait.

Hand loading is pretty detail-intensive and can be pretty frustrating.

[fmon]

Originally Posted by tglendye

You're doing fine. Follow Steve's link to http://www.geocities.com/scanseva/ and then follow the links to va beach. Start off by putting the control channels in only. They are the ones in the red, and there are 4. I've never used a pro433, but if it's like the other RS scanners you'll probably need to select the mode (motorola for this one) and then enter the talk groups.

A CC only Plan will need to be set as this scanner and the 528 are made by Uniden.

[RagnarD]

I have downloaded the software and it looks suspiciously like Scancontrol that I use on my 2052.

I am uploading the file that he should need monitor what he is wanting to do. (for now)

73
de
chris
kq4z

[investigator16]

I use plan 1 on my 898T for Virginia Beach.

[tommyandamanda21]

what is plan 1????

[fmon]

Originally Posted by tommyandamanda21

what is plan 1????

PLAN 1: if the last three digits of ALL the frequencies in use end in any of the following three digits: 125, 375, 625, or 875.

[fmon]

T & A 21,

Read this great RR Wiki section on the scanner. Then click on the Control Channel Only button nest to Motorola.

[tommyandamanda21]

here is a question for the top guys, why is it you can get ems dispatch nice and clear on 155.175 but on the talk group channel 45872, some times you get them and some times you do not????...


also i only put in the 4 primary service channels i have them in bank 3, channel 201, 202, 203, and 204, well apparently 203 was the service channel yesterday with all the humming, but why is it when it scans it won't pick up traffic on channel 201 and 204, i manually went through channels and heard traffic on them but during scan it won't stop on those, is channel 203 over ridding those channels and just scanning 203, 301, 302, and all the talk groups under scan....

just curious...

[Don_Burke]

Originally Posted by tommyandamanda21

here is a question for the top guys, why is it you can get ems dispatch nice and clear on 155.175 but on the talk group channel 45872, some times you get them and some times you do not????...

It should not be doing that.

I have a scanner camped on 45872 and a scanner camped on 155.175 right now.

There seems to be quite a bit of unintentional keying going on on 155.175 and I will let you know what I find out over the next couple of hours.

Originally Posted by tommyandamanda21

also i only put in the 4 primary service channels i have them in bank 3, channel 201, 202, 203, and 204, well apparently 203 was the service channel yesterday with all the humming, but why is it when it scans it won't pick up traffic on channel 201 and 204, i manually went through channels and heard traffic on them but during scan it won't stop on those, is channel 203 over ridding those channels and just scanning 203, 301, 302, and all the talk groups under scan....

just curious...

When scanning a trunked system, many scanners will indicate the control channel for every transmission. I think that is what you are seeing.

Virginia Beach actually has about 20 channels they use for the trunked system.

[kc4jgc]

Originally Posted by tommyandamanda21

also i only put in the 4 primary service channels i have them in bank 3, channel 201, 202, 203, and 204, well apparently 203 was the service channel yesterday with all the humming, but why is it when it scans it won't pick up traffic on channel 201 and 204, i manually went through channels and heard traffic on them but during scan it won't stop on those, is channel 203 over ridding those channels and just scanning 203, 301, 302, and all the talk groups under scan....

just curious...

Exactly what Don said....

When your scanner is scanning a trunked system, it will always show the channel # of the current DATA channel. You'll notice that the actual frequency the unit is recieving changes.

[Don_Burke]

Tommy,

This morning I heard something pretty odd on the two scanners.



After a bunch of dispatches coming out of both scanners, there was one that came out of the one on 155.175, but not on the talkgroup.

A unit responded on the talkgroup and dispatch came back on both.

I am still trying to figure out what it means.

[Webodisk]

I have found if the dispatcher simucasts on both Fire cmd and Ems cmd you don't hear the transmission, I believe the correct term is Multi selctect which changes the Talk group by 7

so 45872 would be 45879

Mike