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Old 06-07-2017, 11:57 AM
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I am amused by these comments about repeaters being "dead" or falling out of fashion. There's one repeater my my area that is pretty much constant conversation during morning and evening drive time. There's another repeater that, in addition to the drive times, is often busy well into the evening. Some of the digital voice repeaters also have a fair amount of activity. The repeaters that are used for local ARES or Skywarn activities usually have weekly check-in nets.

OTOH, 146.520 MHz is very quiet around here.
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Old 06-07-2017, 3:24 PM
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Same here. There's 3 repeaters that I monitor all the time and they pretty much are busy. One has QSOs quite a few times during the day and night.
Repeaters are alive and kicking down here...
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Old 06-07-2017, 6:32 PM
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Interesting twist to the topic.
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I think what people have been describing, but without doing so directly, or perhaps knowingly- is the history and maturation of the two metre band. I'll extend that to the V/UHF bands too, but I think its mostly a 2M phenomenon.
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Why?
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Well, look at what 2 metre's was years ago... a band for Tech's, Novice and a few avant garde higher class experimenters who were either very experimental, or were communicators on AM. I realize there was other stuff on 2, but for the most part this was a Tech band filled with converted SCR-522, ARC-1's, Two'ers-- a homebrew'rs paradise---
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Personal history:
My father gave me (for my 'museum') one of his beautiful HB'd 2 metre AM transmitters, now glowing on my library shelf . Open chassis, it starts out at 8Mhz- a 6EA8 oscillator/multiplier to a 5763 IPA- a 829 push/pull PA, plate modulated by a pair of 6L6's-- 40 watts out...... I turn it on every once and awhile (it makes a neat night-light , ) tap its mic and watch the blue gassy final flicker, and the filaments glow- an object d'arte---- the Golden Age of Two (??)
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Sorry- anyone who knows me knows I can get carried away into this radio history stuff.....
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Back to my point. Then FM came on the scene- and I'm sure you all know the story-- the first converted high band radios from the commercial services flood'd into the surplus market as their users went to the newer narrower band requirements. My grandfather had one of these first converts (RCA's ?) on 146.94- he used it mobile. A real boat anchor; tubes, vibrator power supply- you had to really watch the battery or it would go dead and leave you stranded beside the road (that's why photo's of police cars of that era are often seen at speed traps with their hoods up- their engine running- to prevent over heating- as they use their radios to notify the chase cars down stream.)
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Then it was in a blink of an eye and --Repeaters!
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Everyone was on them, everyone wanted their own- and they proliferated across the country...... and they remain there today
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As ham radio of the 60'/70's matured into the 80's/90's and beyond- Licensing got easier, Techs went to 10, code was dropped, interest in 2 didn't go away, but it got diluted. The repeaters stayed.
Today, I think the number of repeaters far out number their users- the same mentality as in the past, but now its still "everyone wants one but where are these users?" Hence the popularity of certain machines/unpopularity of others. Being social creatures, hams will flock to where the activity is. There the incessant chatter on the popular repeaters drives some people to complain, but they would not think of going over to the lifeless machines- no one's there. As the 2 metre population matures, many find the rewards of simplex- like going back to those golden AM days; a peaceful retreat.
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Personally??.. (well, after all this is just a personal observation - maybe a rant, No?)
From my home in Colorado I can access one very popular repeater- one very high up machine on Mosquito Pass- its linked and covers the whole state, or so it seems.
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I hardly ever listen to it.
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I can also access several never-used repeaters- and I never listen to them either- why should I?... there is never any activity. So, in my mountain valley I leave a radio on '52'- I call it my "maturity channel.'
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I seldom hear anything there either.
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was there a point to all this?.. it was history fun... .

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I lived in Colorado between '94-'99 and there wasa 70 cm machine that my brother and XYL & couple of other locals would meet up on to chew the rag one week to often and the owner asked us to please not use the machine he liked the silence and disuse, we chatted all together about an hour on friday or saturday night we lived all over city and couhty but couldn't work simplex , but could all meet on that machine,from that day on we couldn't all work a machine so we devolved into eyeballs, and none of us used our rigs much because it was a ghost town .

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Old 06-08-2017, 11:05 PM
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I have never run into dead repeaters In Southern Maine we had chitchats on many Maine repeaters into NH repeaters [to the point 1 night we had some complaints we on 2 mtr were sounding like CBers. [OH the Horror]. In South Carolina [upstate area many were on all night shooting the breeze was nice when you was working to listen to someone else. Here in Dallas I monitor many repeaters a lot of nets and lots of chit chats going on I have even monitored simplex for quite a few in all three areas I lived in.
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The Owens Valley in Eastern California doesn't have a lot of repeater coverage. When I'm in the area, I monitor the Mazourka and/or Silver Peak repeaters (which are linked). There's usually enough traffic to keep things interesting, but not a constant drone of chatter. The BARC nightly net is a friendly group.

I also try to monitor 146.52 since I have a pretty clear (RF) view of Hwy 395 south of Lone Pine. There is usually very little traffic. Sometimes locals doing a quick back and forth and occasionally vehicles transitioning the area or backcountry 4x4 travelers. I've never heard any really long rag chews.
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Old 06-09-2017, 11:47 AM
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Certain repeaters have cliquish crowds that aren't welcoming of newcomers and or very particular about things. Then there are RACES or ARES repeaters where the club members are only on for nets and are on HF the rest of the time. Heck, there are ones that don't get on when there is an actual emergency like a tornado.
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