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Old 05-14-2018, 8:46 PM
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I just received my call sign today (Technician). I remember one of the possible questions for the exam pertained to vanity call signs.

So I'm on the FCC website looking at what it takes to get a vanity.
It appears I can't just get any letters at the beginning. There are only a few letters available and it depends on your location.
I'm in zone 4. So K, N, or W at the beginning of my call sign. KN is currently my first two letters. So I'm assuming I have to stay with KN ...or maybe a W in there somewhere??

Says three letters in suffix.

As with most everyone I have one number.

KN4MFU

So my questions : I have to keep the number 4 but can change the last three letters, And the first two letters need to remain KN, ... KW,... NW,... WN,....WK?

https://www.fcc.gov/wireless/bureau-...l-sign-systems
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A, K, N, or W are required for the first letter. You do not have to keep the number 4. Original licenses are issued by zone (you are in Zone 4), but you are not required to keep that number for your vanity call.
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A, K, N, or W are required for the first letter. You do not have to keep the number 4. Original licenses are issued by zone (you are in Zone 4), but you are not required to keep that number for your vanity call.
ok, so K, N, or W for the first letter and everything else is fair game.
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The ITU assigns call sign letters by country. W,A,N,and K were assigned to US amateurs almost a century ago. Check Vanity Call Signs for further information. Everything else is not "fair" game".
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ok, so K, N, or W for the first letter and everything else is fair game.
A, K, N, or W.

The link that jaspence provided is a very good resource, specifically the "Choosing a Vanity Call Sign" section.
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Here are two websites you need to be familiar with. There are specific rules regarding what you can get for a vanity. Do your research to make sure your application will be considered.

AE7Q's Amateur Radio Database Query Tools
RadioQTH Amateur Radio Vanity License Search

Couple of important tips. You will not be considered for a call sign if you apply before the date it is available. If more than one person applies on the first date it is available (2 years after expiration), all applications are thrown in a "hat" and a winner is randomly drawn. Your vanity request must match your license...you can pick any region from 1-10, but not 11-13 unless you live there. So you don't have to keep the 4 if you find something with a different number you like. A 2x2, 1x2, and 2x1 call sign is for Amateur Extra class only (don't mean to insult your intelligence, but someone else reading this may wonder what that means). The "x" represents a numeric from 0-9 for the 10 regions while the "1" and "2" refer to the number of alphabet letters in the call sign--for example AA4A or A4AA are for Amateur Extra class only and are highly sought after. 1x1 call signs are temporary use only for special events and are recycled frequently. You can apply for a 1x3, or a 2x3 like you already have. This is just a brief overview as there are many other rules.

Nobody has the call sign of K4BPB--you are in the man's system Brian.
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1x2 and 1x3 may only be K, N, or W
2x3 may only be K, or W with anything as the second alpha
The "A" is not for Tech or Gen tickets...2x1 and 2x2 only
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The US only has regions 0 through 9, so I am not sure what I am---- is refering to. Stick to the official ARRL info and you will be ok. You will find that the ARRL is a first line of reference for most any amateur related question. There are other good references, but the ARRL is the official voice of ham radio in the US.
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The US only has regions 0 through 9, so I am not sure what I am---- is refering to. Stick to the official ARRL info and you will be ok. You will find that the ARRL is a first line of reference for most any amateur related question. There are other good references, but the ARRL is the official voice of ham radio in the US.
Sorry, you are most incorrect... ARRL is a lobbying group and has ZERO authority to do anything but talk...same as the NRA. The FCC is the first line reference and authority for everything communication related. Call signs are not just issued to the 48 lower states...other regions info cut and paste:

FOR STATIONS WITH MAILING ADDRESSES OUTSIDE OF THE 48 CONTIGUOUS (MAINLAND) UNITED STATES
Certain 2-letter prefixes are reserved for Amateurs with mailing addresses outside of the 48 contiguous states. AH, KH, NH and WH prefixes are reserved for the Pacific Area (Hawaii, Guam, American Samoa and certain other small U.S. island possessions); AL, KL, NL and WL prefixes are reserved for Alaska and KP, NP and WP prefixes are reserved for the Atlantic Area (U.S. Virgin Islands, Puerto Rico and certain other small U.S. Caribbean and South Atlantic island possessions.) These 2-letter prefixes may NOT be selected under the Vanity Call Sign System by radioamateurs with mailing addresses in the 48 (mainland) U.S. states. (Note: It is not required that you reside in these areas, only that your mailing address is there.)

Yes there are only 10, but I cut and pasted info referring to the outside of the 48 areas and they listed them as such.
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i am---, you need to learn to read. I said they were the official voice, not the official rule makers. Since the new op is in the continental USA, don't confuse him with more info than necessary, and I don't see any amateur tag associated with your posts. You need to look up the ITU to see where the real control is. https://www.itu.int/en/about/Pages/default.aspx
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The ARRL is only official because they say that they are, and there's no other similar group of any appreciable size in the US which has made a business out of doing what they do.

The majority of US licensed Amateur Radio Operators do not pay the ARRL for membership.

Speaking for myself, I like some of the things they do, while at the same time disliking or disagreeing with other actions or positions they take or endorse. Specifically they are not speaking for me when they lobby Congress or the FCC on rulemaking and laws.

They do publish some great books, and the LoTW confirmation service is great in my opinion.

If you are new to the hobby, don't be confused about what the league is and isn't, and why you might hear a wide range of opinions about them. As others have pointed out, the legal and formal rule making lies with international and governmental agencies.

Some coordination and documentation of accepted best practices is centered at the ARRL or state and regional frequency coordination groups and not the FCC.

The links in post 6 are excellent resources for learning about the vanity call sign program and it's options.
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Folks, the topic here is vanity call signs. Let's stay on topic.

trx680, the link you included in your first post is the definitive source of information for FCC vanity call sign rules. Click on the "Vanity Call Signs" tab at the top of that article for the official rules.
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I Used this Site when I got My Extra to Change to Vanity----

RadioQTH Amateur Radio Vanity License Search

I Picked 4 Choices--1 was Availabble Immediately--and Thats the 1 I Got--Like Others Said its a Hat Shoot--all I Can say is Hurry on the Pickins---These go Fast and after there assigned its 10 yrs waiting

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