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Old 11-02-2016, 5:31 PM
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Default New Maricopa County Trunked System Coming to Life

I noticed today that one site of the new Maricopa County Trunked System is now online.

System ID 49A
WACN BEE00

Site 134
NAC 494
Broadcasting Callsign WQVV844
770.51875 Voice Channel
771.33125 Alt Control Channel
771.49375 Alt Control Channel
771.70625 Alt Control Channel
771.83125 Primary Control Channel

Based on the FCC license, this appears to be a simulcast site for with transmitters on South Mountain as well as in Chandler and Mesa.

I have not caught any voice or affiliations yet, but I'll be watching it now.

Maybe other sites around the valley that I cannot receive might be active. Here are the new licenses and freqs to listen for control channels.

WQVX813 (MARICOPA, COUNTY OF) FCC Callsign Details
WQVV844 (MARICOPA, COUNTY OF) FCC Callsign Details
WQVG941 (MARICOPA, COUNTY OF) FCC Callsign Details
WQUF568 (MARICOPA, COUNTY OF) FCC Callsign Details
WQVX927 (MARICOPA, COUNTY OF) FCC Callsign Details
WQXG706 (MARICOPA, COUNTY OF) FCC Callsign Details
WQXF466 (MARICOPA, COUNTY OF) FCC Callsign Details
WQWZ892 (MARICOPA, COUNTY OF) FCC Callsign Details
WQWV287 (MARICOPA, COUNTY OF) FCC Callsign Details
WQWV291 (MARICOPA, COUNTY OF) FCC Callsign Details

WQVX813 - Bronco Butte
769.08125
769.54375
769.79375
771.08125
771.54375
771.80625

WQVV844 - 840 S. MESA DR. - Mesa, 911 S. HAMILTON - Chandler, South Mountain, & 8450 E. MAIN ST. - Mesa
770.51875
770.76875
771.01875
771.24375
771.33125
771.49375
771.70625
771.83125

WQVG941 - White Tanks East, White Tanks West, & I-10/Miller Rd - Buckeye
771.15625
771.40625
771.65625
771.90625
772.15625
772.40625
772.65625
772.90625
773.96875
774.65625

WQUF568 - Mt Ord, Humboldt Mtn, & SHERIFFS STATION E. BARTLETT DAM RD. & 26 KM E OF
771.19375
771.44375
771.69375
771.94375
772.19375
772.45625

WQVX927 - 3324 W. GIBSON LN. - Phoenix, & 201 W. JEFFERSON - Phoenix
771.20625
771.45625
771.53125
771.74375
771.95625
772.20625
772.50625
772.75625
772.96875
774.63125

WQWB931 - Gila Bend Oatman Mtn &Buckeye Lewis State Prison
771.21875
771.51875
771.78125
772.24375
772.51875

WQXG706 - Mobile & Town of Freedom (South County)
770.03125
770.29375
770.54375
770.79375
771.04375

WQXF466 - Thompson Peak & North Scottsdale
769.26875
769.51875
769.76875
770.01875
770.26875
772.70625
773.88125
774.38125
774.88125

WQWZ892 - Anthem, New River, & Lake Pleasant
770.04375
771.23125
771.48125
771.71875
772.25625
773.63125

WQWV287 - Wickenburg / Morristown
769.33125
769.58125
769.83125
770.08125
770.33125

WQWV291 - Mesa
771.26875
771.73125
771.96875
772.21875
774.13125
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Old 11-02-2016, 5:48 PM
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No voice transmissions yet, but there are a few data transmissions from Radio IDs 1, 3, and 5. I verified a few more voice freqs too. Also site 134 is not yet advertising any neighbor sites.

Site 134
NAC 494
Broadcasting Callsign WQVV844
770.76875 Voice Channel
771.01875 Voice Channel
771.24375 Voice Channel
770.51875 Voice Channel
771.33125 Alt Control Channel
771.49375 Alt Control Channel
771.70625 Alt Control Channel
771.83125 Primary Control Channel
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System ID is 49A
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I created a new TRS database for folks to submit new findings on the Phase II TRS.

Maricopa County (P25 Phase II) Trunking System, Phoenix, Arizona - Scanner Frequencies

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I created a new TRS database for folks to submit new findings on the Phase II TRS.

Maricopa County (P25 Phase II) Trunking System, Phoenix, Arizona - Scanner Frequencies

Thanks Joe !
Why do I get Access Denied following your link?
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He posted the link to the admin tab.
Try this one Maricopa County (P25 Phase II) Trunking System, Phoenix, Arizona - Scanner Frequencies
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Ooops sorry folks
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So has anyone been able to to determine is this strictly P2 or mixed system yet? Agencies? MCSO?
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So has anyone been able to to determine is this strictly P2 or mixed system yet? Agencies? MCSO?
Strictly P2, every user that is on the current county system will transition over to the P2 system. Unfortunately I believe a lot of encryption will be in place on this system.
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This will probably be Phase-2, but there is always an outside possibility of non-Phase-2 on the system. Way too early to tell, unless encryption is used right from the beginning. Pro96com and Unitrunker will be your best friends here

When PCWIN was installed it was basically the Motorola techs on the radios initially in tech talk groups setting up each site independently, then eventually connecting the sites via back haul.

Don't expect to catch anyone operationally on this system for quite some time. There is a lot of synchronizing going on, especially on the Simulcast linked sites.

You are likely to hear for the short term quick tech talk, and possibly one of the Motorola recordings played over and over ad nauseum until the site is properly set-up.

Eventually, on the PCWIN system, they started handing out training radios to a department or two at a time, to let their training folks get a feel for the new system, and so they could teach their department members how to operate the radios.
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This will probably be Phase-2, but there is always an outside possibility of non-Phase-2 on the system. Way too early to tell, unless encryption is used right from the beginning. Pro96com and Unitrunker will be your best friends here

When PCWIN was installed it was basically the Motorola techs on the radios initially in tech talk groups setting up each site independently, then eventually connecting the sites via back haul.

Don't expect to catch anyone operationally on this system for quite some time. There is a lot of synchronizing going on, especially on the Simulcast linked sites.

You are likely to hear for the short term quick tech talk, and possibly one of the Motorola recordings played over and over ad nauseum until the site is properly set-up.

Eventually, on the PCWIN system, they started handing out training radios to a department or two at a time, to let their training folks get a feel for the new system, and so they could teach their department members how to operate the radios.
At McDOT they began replacing XTL's in vehicles at the end of last year. In January we turned in our old MTS2000's and were given APX radio's. From what I've observed, MCSO and jail's employees all have APX radio's, same with animal control. Looking at Unitrunker there were a few transmission's earlier in the day that were encrypted coming off of 1-034. From what I've heard MCSO will definitely be all encrypted.............I hope not.
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...From what I've heard MCSO will definitely be all encrypted.............I hope not.
This does seem to be the trend everywhere now, and our likely new Sheriff comes from Phoenix PD so at the least I would expect all hot calls to be encrypted.

Are you hearing about the encryption from reliable internal sources?
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For those watching as this comes live, be observant.

On the 10th of November, as I was driving up I-10 from Nogales to Phoenix, I heard some TG's, active TG's, on what is purported to be the Wickenburg site (Morristown) of the new MCSO TRS.

But, I was hearing Ak-Chin TG's.

I just compared the licenses for the two TRS's. Sure enough, except for one frequency, they share the same EXACT frequencies. It's normal to see one or two shared frequencies on systems that are far enough away that they can't interfere with each other.

The MCSO-Morristown license has five of the six repeater frequencies found on the Ak-Chin license.

This threw me for a loop at first, but problem solved

Ak-Chin License - ULS License - Trunked Public Safety 700 MHz License - WQPY838 - AK-CHIN INDIAN COMMUNITY - Frequencies Summary

MCSO - Morristown - License - ULS License - Trunked Public Safety 700 MHz License - WQWV287 - MARICOPA, COUNTY OF - Frequencies Summary
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Thanks for bringing this up. I noticed this too as I am scanning all if the new Maricopa County freqs as conventional looking for control channels. This got me excited when I originally noticed it. This is good info so it does not fool anyone else!
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The Thompson Peak/North Scottsdale site has come to life.

Site 133
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774.88125 Primary Control Channel
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The Thompson Peak/North Scottsdale site has come to life.

Site 133
NAC 493
774.88125 Primary Control Channel
This site has for its neighbor (i.e., it is linked to):
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I can pick-up the Scottsdale site (133) just barely so I don't think it is on Thompson PK but in Scottsdale somewhere. Control Channel info is:

772.70625
773.88125
774.38125
774.88125 - current
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We're getting ready to do a huge pour this weekend in the west side of Phoenix so did some quick programming after I checked into the hotel, all the conventional channels for White Tanks are in a scan and suddenly 773.96875 came up lima charlie however it wasn't what I expected... according to the log it was System 534 and the audio was Phoenix Fire Dispatch so it appears there might be a license error. What's odd is that it's only Fire Dispatch no other traffic... I'll leave it running overnight.
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We're getting ready to do a huge pour this weekend in the west side of Phoenix so did some quick programming after I checked into the hotel, all the conventional channels for White Tanks are in a scan and suddenly 773.96875 came up lima charlie however it wasn't what I expected... according to the log it was System 534 and the audio was Phoenix Fire Dispatch so it appears there might be a license error. What's odd is that it's only Fire Dispatch no other traffic... I'll leave it running overnight.
I noticed this the other day but did not have a chance to take a closer look. I had a chance to monitor today, and it turns out this is a voice channel for the RWC Sacaton Site (Site 109).

I also confirmed this by listening to the site. In the 15 mins that I listened, all that was active was talkgroup 1795. That is why you only heard Phoenix fire dispatch on 773.96875. This freq is not part of the license for that site.

The only licenses in the state for 773.96875 are for Maricopa County with two transmitters on White Tanks, and one at I-10 & Miller Rd.
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I caught my first voice transmissions on the Chandler/Mesa site this morning. Unfortunately, it was encrypted. Talkgroup 11 was Phase 2 encrypted. Radio IDs were 92 and 103. I'm guessing it was just testing.
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