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Old 12-06-2018, 8:01 PM
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Default Anyone using a BCD436hp in Phoenix Az?

Just moved to Phoenix and Iím looking into getting a digital scanner, which I never owned before. The Uniden Bcd436hp looks like a good choice and it seems as though you can have it scanning minutes after receiving it. Donít know if Iíd be able to program it with the software on a computer so thatís why this 1 looks good. Is anyone using this scanner in the Phoenix area? If so would you recommend it or a different one.
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Old 12-06-2018, 10:14 PM
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Be prepared to get several different opinions on what the best scanner for the Valley is.

Some have had success with the 436/536. Some will say the HP1/HP2 is just as good, and may be even easier to program. Some may suggest the 325P2/996P2.

Others will say that because of the widely experienced simulcast issues here, only the SDS-100 will work, and others will say even it has problems.

Still others will say the only real choice is a Unication G4 or G5 pager, even with its limitations due to being a pager and not a scanner.

Others will say you need a professional grade public safety radio, such as *Motorola, just be careful with programming a Big M radio, because you don't want it to affiliate with the system. Others may say that a Harris radio is a better choice, because it's easier to program so it won't accidentally affiliate with the system.

There are so many different experiences with so many different models of scanners, pagers, and two-way radios. Asking which is best may leave you with more questions than answers it seems.

I only know that in my experience, my older GRE PSR-500 does not handle simulcast at all. Yet a friend with the Radio Shack equivalent, the PRO-106, seemingly has no issues.

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Old 12-06-2018, 11:56 PM
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I use a 436HP in Mesa for Mesa fire and PD, works fine. I don't travel with it so I can't say how it performs mobile.
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Old 12-08-2018, 6:17 PM
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I have a 536HP and Iím not very fond of it, in fact I took it out of the car and replaced it with a 996P2. It receives well but for some reason scans slow to the point where Iím missing traffic that Iím getting on my 325P2 and my 996P2. The 536 is set up in the garage (my radio room) and I hardly use it since I have the 325 there also.

Just my 4 cents (inflation).

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Old 12-08-2018, 6:31 PM
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I really appreciate al the responses. Iím taking all your replies into consideration and Iím sure itíll help me decide one the right scanner to buy
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Old 12-08-2018, 8:42 PM
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As the others have said, it's to each their own. All of these devices have their merit. I have a 536HP on my desk, and one in the truck. I also have multiple XTS5000s set up for NA scan. There are pluses and minuses to each, and you first must decide what is important to you in terms of what you want to get out of scanning radio traffic - least that's how I look at it. As you will also note here in the forums, where you are, and what you are monitoring can be tricky to hone. This may influence your decision on which route to venture down first.

Here are my observations after implementing the 536 and an XTS:

536HP Pros:
-Legit Scanner, typical scanner capabilities (bands, capacity, speed, etc)
-Easy to program and maintain

536HP Cons:
-Does miss some traffic on P25 trunked systems
-Sometimes suffers from simulcast issues (band specific antenna does help when mobile)

XTS5000 NA Pros:
-Excellent audio quality (blows any scanner out of the water)
-Never misses any traffic
-Simple to operate

XTS5000 NA Cons:
-Doesn't function like a scanner (it's a radio after all!)
-If you mess up the programming, you turn it into a brick, and worse, disrupt public safety comms
-Limited space for systems and channels (capacity I guess you could call it)
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Thanks, Iím new to digital scanning and itís overwhelming. All I really want is a scanner that monitors the Phoenix area public safety but I can see where itís more complicated than the days with my realistic scanner. Thanh you for your feedback I really appreciate it.
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My $.02.

I use a handheld BCD325P2 and use GPS while mobile. Iím happy with the results. I use an ext antenna when Iím in the car and a Radio Shack 800 MHz when not.

I mostly monitor DPS and the Maricopa County Motorola type II system. No complaints at all.

I used to monitor RWC G when I lived in Peoria. That worked well, too.
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Iím told Phoenix PD is simulcast are you able to pick up any of theirs? (Sorry, but I donít know very much about digital radio, Iím just learning)
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Iím told Phoenix PD is simulcast are you able to pick up any of theirs? (Sorry, but I donít know very much about digital radio, Iím just learning)


You may find this page helpful...

http://wiki.radioreference.com/index...em_Quick_Guide


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See this page to help you understand the issue with Simulcast systems such as the RWC and TOPAZ RWC that the majority of the local PD's and FD's use here in the Valley.
Unfortunately, it isn't as easy as it once was to monitor many of the agencies.

https://wiki.radioreference.com/inde...ast_Distortion

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Old 12-09-2018, 6:31 PM
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Thanks guys, now I understand things a little better but itís a lot to take in for someone new. The more I read on radio ref the more I understand.
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