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Old 06-05-2011, 1:50 PM
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So you can sort of Y cable things together and whatever has the best signal gets through? That antenna looks great, plus its designed for 30-1300 so it would be great for 800MHz trunk stuff too I bet. Probably well under 100.00 to to door too, wow that's encouraging!
I actually split the feedline for my discone, but dont mix the 2 antenna's into one feed line. For what you hear, its one scanner on the Ground Plane (108-165mhz), and one scanner on the Discone (30-1300mhz), and then I do the stereo to mono trick you found earlier in the post, in Audacity.

So essentially its the same as mixing the 2, but without the whole issue of signal cancellation, and all that other stuff I dont truely understand There is some really great posts in the antenna forum, be sure to check them out, the top 2 stickies are about splitting, and splicing feed lines.

The price was certainly a big draw, but this guy was really great to deal with too, and he even custom cut the Discone to be closer to 400mhz at its center, so its more or less cut for MilAir. I can usually tell by the recordings when the discone starts to pick them up, the discone is so crisp, but it has a significantly shorter range than the Ground Plane, if I had to guess I would say its at least 100km distance in difference, but the GP will pull in a lot more static, and noise as well. Get both if you can

edit : Just a side note too, I've had 2 Radio Shack antenna's previous, and both were not even comparable to these Centerfire ones, signal wise, and the RS ones bend and warp so easily...the CF ones just go back to normal when bent, or compressed out of its normal shape, and whip you if your not carefull when it rebounds lol..

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I wonder if it was these guys I caught at the airport on Friday, it was definatly a Dover bird, anything on the boxes from Friday around here Mark?
HAGAR-90 C-5B #85-0004 was logged in Nova Scotia area 1630z Friday then Maine at 1800z
before coming back down here so kind of stopped off for an hour it seems.
Could be your Dover C-5B. HAGAR is Dover C-5 training callsign.

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HAGAR-90 C-5B #85-0004 was logged in Nova Scotia area 1630z Friday then Maine at 1800z
before coming back down here so kind of stopped off for an hour it seems.
Could be your Dover C-5B. HAGAR is Dover C-5 training callsign.

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Cool! He must have just stopped off for gas I guess. Someone tell them to come back any time, and tell them they are more than welcome to use my house as a marker for fly-by training too
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...and to make a wide turn out toward my area when leaving

Ian I think I'd opt for clarity over distance if I had to choose, and I most likely will. Honestly with the extra Gre antenna I bought about 6 months after getting my PSR500 I'm blown away now with what I hear when tankers are close, and it's an 800mhz ant.. If I'm outside (or at home in a window) I can hear them from 5-10 mins away sometimes it seems. I think that the Discone should beat that by a fair amount, plus I'd hear them approaching from both directions which I'm really looking forward to.

I'm also looking at lenses today, and found a pretty good one, so much so I think I'm going to choose it for a gift or something if I don't buy it. It's only a 250mm, but it's got IS. None of the 300s I was looking at had that. It's on from 200 from 400 right now, I hope it still will be once it comes time to choose one. I'm going to put a link here to refer to if you want to take a look or offer an opinion.

http://www.amazon.com/Canon-55-250mm.../ref=pd_cp_p_0

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...and to make a wide turn out toward my area when leaving

Ian I think I'd opt for clarity over distance if I had to choose, and I most likely will. Honestly with the extra Gre antenna I bought about 6 months after getting my PSR500 I'm blown away now with what I hear when tankers are close, and it's an 800mhz ant.. If I'm outside (or at home in a window) I can hear them from 5-10 mins away sometimes it seems. I think that the Discone should beat that by a fair amount, plus I'd hear them approaching from both directions which I'm really looking forward to.

I'm also looking at lenses today, and found a pretty good one, so much so I think I'm going to choose it for a gift or something if I don't buy it. It's only a 250mm, but it's got IS. None of the 300s I was looking at had that. It's on from 200 from 400 right now, I hope it still will be once it comes time to choose one. I'm going to put a link here to refer to if you want to take a look or offer an opinion.

Amazon.com: Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4.0-5.6 IS Telephoto Zoom Lens for Canon Digital SLR Cameras: Camera & Photo
You can't go wrong with the Discone, I had that one first of the 2, and it works really great across the whole spectrum, even the CivAir band comes in very well, especially all the high altitude stuff. Plus the nice thing about it is, it does not overload my handhelds, which I notice the Airband GP does, if its hooked up to my handheld units, and their squelch is turned low eneough, I will get the pager signal overrunning everything.

I was actually looking at lenses last night as well, just on Ebay, because I havent been very impressed with the 200mm EF and 2x Converter results, without the stablization it really hurts the quality at the range I'm shooting, I was actually looking at this thing below at the link, as an add on to my 250mm EF-S, it is similar to what you talked about, its like a filter, that goes on the front end of the lense, instead of behind it, since no one makes a teleconverter for the EF-S series...yet :

</title><meta name="description" content="Find 2x Telephoto Tele Lens for Canon Digital Rebel XSi 450D in Cameras Photo, Lenses Filters , Lenses category on eBay.ca."><meta name="keywords" content="2x Telephoto Tele Lens for Canon Digital Rebel XSi 4

I am gonna order one this week, since its only 30bucks, I'll let you know how it works. The only 300mm lens that has IS is one of the USM models, which if I recall was around 900-1000$ at Henrys.

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Thanks for the reply! Looks like that thing is very similar to the Olympus lens I have now, it's designed to go on the end of a separate addon lens. I'm planning on holding that 1.7 converter on whatever lens I end up getting so see how it goes, I know I can stick it on my current camera or even my binoculars with great results. Plus maybe a 2x converter down the road that's designed for an SLR rather than the lens I have now would be nice. Guess it's smart to invest in IS now in case I double the lens at some point.
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Guess it's smart to invest in IS now in case I double the lens at some point.
That would be my advice if any, the IS makes a huge difference, especially if your mobile, and or dont have a tripod, or have shakey hands like me apparently
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I have one but usually leave it at home although that may change after I get geared up. I can see me getting the IS version and later a 2x and using the tripod when I wanna use it. Is the extra 50 that a 250 gives much difference over a 200, or would you rather go with 300? I'm starting to get a better picture if what I'd like as far as a lens. Still a bit clueless though but I'm progressing. Glad you told me about the IS lens, thanks for that.
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Is the extra 50 that a 250 gives much difference over a 200, or would you rather go with 300? I'm starting to get a better picture if what I'd like as far as a lens. Still a bit clueless though but I'm progressing. Glad you told me about the IS lens, thanks for that.
Hey, no thanks needed man, you share plenty of good information with me too I just hope what I'm saying helps, and doesn't confuse you

Theres tons of stuff to consider when buying Lenses, I wont even prentend to have a clue, cause I really dont either lol, I just know the difference in the 3 lenses I have, and its significant, at least when it comes to stabilization..and overall quality. And of course I know the USM IS lenses cost 3x as much, and are really what I need..lol..unfortunatly if I was gonna get one of those, it would be 400+ mm, which pretty much moves me up into the 1-3k range..so I've kind of decided to try some of the cheaper options like the doubler, and maybe even an attachment to use with a Telescope, instead of a telephoto lens, they have a few different ones on Ebay, and for what we are doing..the price tag of 100-300$ for 400-2000mm is awfully tempting..plus then I could use the telescope in the evening for plane old star gazing/pictures.

Between the 200 and 250mm, the difference is noticeable, but its not huge. If its nice out tomorrow I'll do a couple test shots with both, no tele-converter, and let you see for your self.

As for buying a USM IS 300mm..I would consider it, if I hadnt bought the 250 EF-S, but the price between the two is pretty hard to swallow when you consider the actual difference in size...here's the links to the 2 I've been talking about, if your getting a Rebel series :

CANON EF-S 55-250MM 4-5.6 IS LENS 2044B002 - Henry's best camera store in Canada

CANON EF 70-300MM F4-5.6 IS USM LENS 0345B002 - Henry's best camera store in Canada

I wouldn't even waste my time with a lense that doesnt have IS of some type, 300mm or 600mm, its just too far and the slightest movement, even the shutter opening and closing can effect the quality significantly, I've see this already with some of the shots I took on the tripod..and have been reading up on it since, maybe you wanna check out this forum I found, they have tons of good information :

http://photography-on-the.net/forum/...d.php?t=574001
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Sweet! More to read! So the 250 I posted is the same thing you did right? It's on for $200 from $400 so it seems like it must be. Seems like a good deal.. Looks like I'll be picking up the 250 since the 300 I looked at doesn't have IS. Headed to the US in August, I might poke around down there while I'm there. From what I'm reading there's an IS 200, then an IS 250, then a non IS 300, then a huge price increase to an IS 300. Is that accurate?

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So the 250 I posted is the same thing you did right?

Headed to the US in August, I might poke around down there while I'm there.
Yep, it's the exact same, just thought I'd put it in there so you could see for sure.

That would be sweet, since they always seem to have cheaper stuff down there, I wonder if there is a good electronics outlet near Bangor...Ed must know

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From what I'm reading there's an IS 200, then an IS 250, then a non IS 300, then a huge price increase to an IS 300. Is that accurate?
Edit :They make the EF-S version, my bad, but its still way more than the 250mm, this is the one I found : http://www.henrys.ca/23939-CANON-EF-...6-IS-LENS.aspx

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Hmm I coulda misremembered too. Either way, I think the 250 IS is for me. I almost wanna pull the trigger on it now in case it goes to 400 again. Mustn't.... Be.... Fooled!

So Ed, any thoughts?I know there's a steakhouse there, and a Target my wife and I _freaked_ out at ("The Oreos! Theyre in the same package as in the movies!!") but that's it.
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Hmm I coulda misremembered too. Either way, I think the 250 IS is for me. I almost wanna pull the trigger on it now in case it goes to 400 again. Mustn't.... Be.... Fooled!
lol, thats a great price compared to Henry's, if you know for sure your getting a Rebel that uses the EF-S lenses, I would go for it, then it wont be such a big hit on the wallet when you get the body later.

You hear anything at all today? Its been dead out here, not even a Seapig..looks like we had a duplicate for tomorrow, but now it only shows the one flight for 12:45Z, 204 has 2 doubles, and a single..I'm betting thats those 5 F-15s Mark mentioned..to which I say...ARG!
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I heard nothing either. I did see a 747 overtake a 777 right over ny head, they were side by side as they went over. That was cool! For a sec I thought it might be a KC-10 and something but it was missing an engine.

Yeah that is a great deal on that lens, I'm going to watch it, but most likely wait on the purchase. I don't even mind a used one. Oh and I have decided on a Rebel, that's what the T3i is. Now we play the waiting game
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That would be sweet, since they always seem to have cheaper stuff down there, I wonder if there is a good electronics outlet near Bangor...Ed must know
Hey guys,

Sorry but other than Best Buy, I really have no information about good electronics stores in Bangor. I live almost two hours away and don't get up there often. When I am up there, it was for work and to watch planes, that's about it. To help you out, I put out an email to the Bangor yahoo group. Hopefully, one of the local guys who live there can shed some light on a good local retailer they love for cameras and electronics.

In the Portland area, there is Hunt's Photo and Photomarket.
PhotoMarket, Portland, ME - 207.797.7100
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Sorry I can't offer more help on this for you Darryl. I'll let you know if any of the Bangor group people say anything.
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Hey that's fine Ed, appreciate the effort. I was really just throwing it out there in case ya knew. I don't think I'll be able to beat the price that Ian and I were talking about anyway. That's a great deal n
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Hey that's fine Ed, appreciate the effort. I was really just throwing it out there in case ya knew. I don't think I'll be able to beat the price that Ian and I were talking about anyway. That's a great deal n
Sure thing Darryl. Like I said, I'll help if I can here in this group. :-)
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Hey guys, late notice but SHUCK 95 and ETHYL 52 have been heading your way for awhile. They might be splitting up around Halifax so listen to local Moncton Center too.

They checked in with Moncton on 123.9 at 0248z.
Still hear them on 341.75 now (0256z) but starting to get fuzzy.

AE11DF 77-0351 SHUCK95H 2011-06-08 02:09:07 E-3B United States USAF | 552ACW [KTIK]
AE0238 58-0074 ETHYL52 2011-06-08 02:00:48 KC-135T United States PA ANG | 171ARW [KPIT]
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Hey guys, late notice but SHUCK 95 and ETHYL 52 have been heading your way for awhile. They might be splitting up around Halifax so listen to local Moncton Center too.

They checked in with Moncton on 123.9 at 0248z.
Still hear them on 341.75 now (0256z) but starting to get fuzzy.

AE11DF 77-0351 SHUCK95H 2011-06-08 02:09:07 E-3B United States USAF | 552ACW [KTIK]
AE0238 58-0074 ETHYL52 2011-06-08 02:00:48 KC-135T United States PA ANG | 171ARW [KPIT]
Thanks Ed, Ill add that to the recording, been hearing them for about the last 5-10 now myself. They are still working, getting close.
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Thanks Ed, Ill add that to the recording, been hearing them for about the last 5-10 now myself. They are still working, getting close.
Ok, very good Ian. Glad you caught them. I'm still hearing them too. Faint, but they are still popping up on 341.75 here. Maybe conditions are good tonight.
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