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Old 06-18-2011, 4:37 PM
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This is why I thought it was discontinued;
'Older Emergency Locator Transmitters (ELTs) transmit on 121.5 MHz in case of impact. Newer ELTs transmit on 406 MHz, with a low power beacon on 121.5 MHz for local homing. Satellites listen for the signals and alert local personnel to the emergency, and the beacon allows search and rescue to find the scene of the accident faster. 406 MHz beacons are encoded, allowing the vessel of origin to be determined and false alarms to be quickly verified. Satellite support for the 121.5 MHz-only versions was discontinued in early 2009.[1]'
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This is why I thought it was discontinued;
'Older Emergency Locator Transmitters (ELTs) transmit on 121.5 MHz in case of impact. Newer ELTs transmit on 406 MHz, with a low power beacon on 121.5 MHz for local homing. Satellites listen for the signals and alert local personnel to the emergency, and the beacon allows search and rescue to find the scene of the accident faster. 406 MHz beacons are encoded, allowing the vessel of origin to be determined and false alarms to be quickly verified. Satellite support for the 121.5 MHz-only versions was discontinued in early 2009.[1]'
Hmm, maybe thats what was overloading my handhelds before, it was back in the 2008-2009 time frame when I started getting back into scanning the air bands.
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E-8C headed our way today from over the UK.
HEINZ 57 (get the joke) E-8C #97-0200 last logged off Scotland 1136z.
Guess they didn't like the normal HEINZ 14.
Originally in Germany early this morning was showing LOSS 14 callsign
in case they sw back to that.
Should make your area by around 1630-1700z.

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57 varieties of missed planes due to cloudy days?

Thanks for the heads up Mark, will be listening!
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E-8C headed our way today from over the UK.
HEINZ 57 (get the joke) E-8C #97-0200 last logged off Scotland 1136z.
Guess they didn't like the normal HEINZ 14.
Originally in Germany early this morning was showing LOSS 14 callsign
in case they sw back to that.
Should make your area by around 1630-1700z.

Mark
Sweet! I wonder if he is the flight that was on the SUA for 18:45z, or if he's extra! Thanks for the heads up Mark!

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57 varieties of missed planes due to cloudy days?
We might get lucky and see blue yet! Theres a big hole in the greyness south of us, moving slowly NE..crosses fingers!
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We might get lucky and see blue yet! Theres a big hole in the greyness south of us, moving slowly NE..crosses fingers!
HEINZ 57 showed Nova Scotia 1640z and Maine 1700z and Mass.1720z.
Didn't see any tankers so guess will make Georgia on its own.
It did hit Quid KC-135 tanker off UK so maybe that was enough.

1745z HEINZ 57 showing here prob over Penn FL32k.
No tanker trying to Ketch up? LOL ..wow that was bad..

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No tanker trying to Ketch up? LOL ..wow that was bad..

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Bwaahahaha I woulda posted it if you hadn't Mark!
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HEINZ 57 showed Nova Scotia 1640z and Maine 1700z and Mass.1720z.
Didn't see any tankers so guess will make Georgia on its own.
It did hit Quid KC-135 tanker off UK so maybe that was enough.

1745z HEINZ 57 showing here prob over Penn FL32k.
No tanker trying to Ketch up? LOL ..wow that was bad..

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LOL

Do you think they would schedule the airspace up here, just in case? Havent heard a peep all day, wondering where that 18:45 flight went, if they were delayed till now it would be nice, since the skys finally cleared.
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LOL

Do you think they would schedule the airspace up here, just in case? Havent heard a peep all day, wondering where that 18:45 flight went, if they were delayed till now it would be nice, since the skys finally cleared.
Yeah I think a lot of air reservations go unused.
Like you say just in case etc.

German Tornado's should be leaving early Monday morn in case you
guys are up.BLUE 01,92 KC-10's should be the tankers all out of Bangor.

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German Tornado's should be leaving early Monday morn in case you guys are up.BLUE 01,92 KC-10's should be the tankers all out of Bangor.

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Looks like GAF Tornados scratched today out of Maine.
Air Reservation over UK shows now Tuesday 21st the next attempt.

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Looks like GAF Tornados scratched today out of Maine.
Air Reservation over UK shows now Tuesday 21st the next attempt.

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Thanks for the info Mark, I'm glad to read it since I was busy all day.
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Thanks for the info Mark, I'm glad to read it since I was busy all day.
Correction one group got out Retro 41 with Blue 91 KC-10.
Must have departed just after sunup.
Guess the rest will be tuesday Retro 51 and Blue 01.

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Correction one group got out Retro 41 with Blue 91 KC-10.
Must have departed just after sunup.
Guess the rest will be tuesday Retro 51 and Blue 01.

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I guess I need to get up earlier..Got any freq's to monitor Mark?
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Correction one group got out Retro 41 with Blue 91 KC-10.
Must have departed just after sunup.
Guess the rest will be tuesday Retro 51 and Blue 01.

Mark
Guys,

I got an email from a local up in Bangor and he said the fighters took off just after 6am this morning. Damn! Was sleeping like a baby at that time. I just checked my recordings and sure enough, I did get a few transmissions on 243.8 (RETROs A-A). All of them were BLUE 01 telling the RETROs that 314.1 was going to be the tanker/fighter interplane. Then, he asked the RETROs would they rather use 314.1 or 243.8 for the tanker/fighter interplane. It was decided that 243.8 was going to be the freq they use. It was going to be their AR freq. That's all the comms I caught.

I never heard the RETROs talking, they must have taken off first and were out of my range during these brief comms from BLUE 01. So, I'm sorry to say I didn't get a RETRO # but I would ASSume is was 51-54??

Forgot to add, the time my recordings logged was 6:53 AM EDT (1053z)
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I got an email from a local up in Bangor and he said the fighters took off just after 6am this morning. Damn! Was sleeping like a baby at that time. I just checked my recordings and sure enough, I did get a few transmissions on 243.8 (RETROs A-A). All of them were BLUE 01 telling the RETROs that 314.1 was going to be the tanker/fighter interplane. Then, he asked the RETROs would they rather use 314.1 or 243.8 for the tanker/fighter interplane. It was decided that 243.8 was going to be the freq they use. It was going to be their AR freq. That's all the comms I caught.

I never heard the RETROs talking, they must have taken off first and were out of my range during these brief comms from BLUE 01. So, I'm sorry to say I didn't get a RETRO # but I would ASSume is was 51-54??

Forgot to add, the time my recordings logged was 6:53 AM EDT (1053z)
Thanks for the information Ed, I guess they didn't head over this way, cause I didnt hear much this morning, and got nothing on the radios that early.

I did catch an unknown flight getting gas at around 9AM local, so 12z, something255, they never said the full name, they took 47k of fuel, which seems light, but we know that doesnt mean anything. He was with ETHYL16. Anyone guess, or log pehaps? Probally just a Reach flight.

Heres the audio anyways, the refuel is in the middle somewhere there, plus a bunch of Heli's and stuff..I left all the Shearwater audio I got the last 2 days, since the AR has been so quiet. Enjoy!

YouTube - ‪AR20 - HALIFAX AREA - 21-06-2011.wmv‬‏
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Forgot to add, the time my recordings logged was 6:53 AM EDT (1053z)
Nice update Ed,
Odd is how none of the tankers showed up on Nova Scotia or
St Johns boxes.Guess they depart due east perhaps and everyone misses them?

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I did catch an unknown flight getting gas at around 9AM local, so 12z, something255, they never said the full name, they took 47k of fuel, which seems light, but we know that doesnt mean anything. He was with ETHYL16. Anyone guess, or log pehaps? Probally just a Reach flight.
Nice audio Ian. Whole bunch of choppers this time. Nice to hear some different stuff. Thanks!

Here's what I could find about your flight:

AE0150 57-1430 ETHYL16 2011-06-21 13:15:36 KC-135R United States NH ANG | 157ARW | 133ARS [KPSM] Nova Scotia, CA
AE07FB 98-0049 RCH225 2011-06-21 13:16:10 C-17A United States USAF | 62AW [KTCM] Nova Scotia, CA
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Nice update Ed,
Odd is how none of the tankers showed up on Nova Scotia or
St Johns boxes.Guess they depart due east perhaps and everyone misses them?

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That's it Mark. They must have gone North right out of Bangor up over Labrador. The Nova Scotia box has an excellent receiving range and he usually catches planes from Bangor to the East all the way down to Portsmouth, NH area. If his box doesn't catch something coming out of Bangor, it's pretty much a given they went North instead of East towards Nova Scotia and St. Johns.

I've seen this happen a few times now that I am watching more boxes. It also happens in reverse too. Today, I was the first box that BLUE 91 hit coming back to the US. I can pretty much tell what route they take when this happens. If you ever look NE of Maine during 12pm to 2pm every day, the flights coming inbound from the pond are directed over the small stretch of Quebec just north of New Brunswick, down into Maine. Usually in two distict airways. Flights to Newark to the West and flights to JFK slightly to the East. It's really something to watch on the display. When these flights come in or go out, the Nova Scotia box didn't catch them. That's why we never see any log until they hit the UK. NOW, if we could somehow find out who the guy in Canada is who uploads to planefinder, he's in a GREAT postition to help us out! He must be somewhere near the mouth of the St. Lawrence Seaway. He has great range!
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Still a newbie here, so this may be a newbie question, but obviously there's folks with ADS-B in these locations. Is there a way to see their display of what they're picking up? I want an ADS-B and hopefully I'll be getting a microadsb soon (once this postal strike is over)... Does anyone have their feeds up online?
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Still a newbie here, so this may be a newbie question, but obviously there's folks with ADS-B in these locations. Is there a way to see their display of what they're picking up? I want an ADS-B and hopefully I'll be getting a microadsb soon (once this postal strike is over)... Does anyone have their feeds up online?
SYOTT,

The only way to see these boxes live is if you are a contributing member of the military live mode-s site. If you share you data to Albert's website, you get access to all the features of the website. Some of these boxes (mine included) are also sharing to planefinder.net Here you can see practically live (slight 1-2 min delay) aircraft that the boxes are picking up. Note, it is only planes sharing full ADS-B data which gives their lat, long position.

Most military do not show their position data. I stress, if you want to watch military move around the screen, don't hold your breath because it won't happen. Only once in awhile you may see a SAM flight, or and E-6B, and recently (twice) and RC-135. Some foreign regulars like German AF A-310 and Belgian AF planes may also plot.

You can see some live data for free on the mode-s site by clicking one of the three links.
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Any more questions, feel free to ask. We all try to help each other here and I'll answer what I can if I know it. Hope this helps a little.
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