Alpha tags with BC895 and Scannercast ?

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73cuda

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I'm ready to provide a feed to RR and want to send alpha tags, can I do this using my BC895XLT and Scannercast even though the BC895 isn't supported ?

I'm currently streaming using Icecast-Oddcast-serproxy-Talkgroup monitor and listening with Winamp and it's been working flawlessly for a couple of weeks now.

If Scannercast won't work for me, s there any other option to feed to RR ?

Thanks,

Steve
 

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not for tags. You'd have to get a newer model scanner like the GRE PSR-500/600 or a Uniden 396/996 those are the only scanners supported for text tagging on scannercast. if you had a uniden 785/796 you could do text tags using edcast/oddcast with talkgroup monitor. I don't think it supports any other scanners but I could be wrong.
 

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Hi Steve:

Unfortunately, as Nexus pointed out the only option for Tags with your current Uniden model is to use the Icecast/Simplecast-Oddcast-Serproxy-Talkgroup Monitor combo. I have a BC898T model and need to use that same combo to send Tags as well. I am able to send Tags with my BC796D however using Proscan software.

Thanks - Mike
 

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Thanks guys,

Mike, As stated, I'm using Icecast>Oddcast>Serproxy>Talkgroup Monitor.

So I can stream to RR using that setup ?
 

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Hi Steve:

Unfortunately, as Nexus pointed out the only option for Tags with your current Uniden model is to use the Icecast/Simplecast-Oddcast-Serproxy-Talkgroup Monitor combo. I have a BC898T model and need to use that same combo to send Tags as well. I am able to send Tags with my BC796D however using Proscan software.

Thanks - Mike

Mike, Do you use logging software with the BC898T? If so, what software? Does it show the channel info in the program caption (title) area or generates a text file with the channel info?

[EDIT] Does Talkgroup Monitor.show the channel info in the program caption (title) area or generates a text file with the channel info?
 

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You can use icecast/oddcast/edcast with talkgroup monitor with radio reference. That's what I was using before switching to scannercast. You just need to get your feed username, mount point, and password and configure it all in odd/eddcast.
 
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Mike is correct.

You manually have to generate a text file that the talkgroup monitor will pull from in order to get the desired text tags to be sent. It doesn't take the information from the scanner itself. In the txt file you'll associate talkgroup id's with a alphanumeric name of your choice, then when the radio lands on that talkgroup id, it uses what's in the txt file to send to winamp. For example...

a talkgroup monitor txt file might look like this.

3458,Gainsville PD Dispatch
3356,Gainsville FD Dispatch
4410,Animal Control
9032,MC Highway Patrol
45329,Marsh AFB SFS 1
45999,Marsh AFB Command Net
80703,Statewide EOC

So when 9032 pops up it pulls MC Highway Patrol from the list and sends it along with the audio.
 

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You can use icecast/oddcast/edcast with talkgroup monitor with radio reference. That's what I was using before switching to scannercast. You just need to get your feed username, mount point, and password and configure it all in odd/eddcast.

Okay, setting up Oddcast and getting the feed up on RR was quick and easy. However, I'm having trouble setting up Icecast and TlkGrpMon though. I'm getting the "OK not rcvd".

Is there and guide on configuring Icecast and TG monitor for RR ? I can post screen captures of my configurations for all programs although I probably shouldn't due to the PW info, I could blank that out though.

It's important for me to provide tags to my feed, thanks for any help,

Steve
 

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Okay, setting up Oddcast and getting the feed up on RR was quick and easy. However, I'm having trouble setting up Icecast and TlkGrpMon though. I'm getting the "OK not rcvd".

Is there and guide on configuring Icecast and TG monitor for RR ? I can post screen captures of my configurations for all programs although I probably shouldn't due to the PW info, I could blank that out though.

It's important for me to provide tags to my feed, thanks for any help,

Steve

Go ahead and post it without the password info....change it if you have to. Do you have a uniden controlling program running at the same time? This is most often the case. Too many (more than one) programs trying to access the same COM port...doesn't work in any (or most) operating systems.
So quit those controlling programs and try again.
 
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Okay, I'll post the config files below without the PW's. And, I'm not running any other control program at the same time as streaming to RR.

Icecast

<!-- This config file contains a minimal set of configurable parameters,
and mostly just contains the things you need to change. We created
this for those who got scared away from the rather large and heavily
commented icecast.xml.dist file. -->
<icecast>
<limits>
<sources>2</sources>
</limits>
<authentication>
<source-password>What goes here</source-password>
<relay-password>What goes here</relay-password>
<admin-user>admin<What goes here-user>
<admin-password>What goes here</admin-password>
</authentication>

<hostname>audio1.radioreference.com</hostname> DO I USE MY SERVER IP OR RR IP ?
<listen-socket>
<port>80</port>
</listen-socket>
<fileserve>1</fileserve>
<paths>
<logdir>./logs</logdir>
<webroot>./web</webroot>
<adminroot>./admin</adminroot>
<alias source="/" dest="/status.xsl"/>
</paths>
<logging>
<accesslog>access.log</accesslog>
<errorlog>error.log</errorlog>
<loglevel>3</loglevel> <!-- 4 Debug, 3 Info, 2 Warn, 1 Error -->
</logging>
</icecast>

Talk Group Monitor

#
# Scanner connection parameters
#
#
# SCANNER_HOST should be set to the IP address or hostname of the machine
# your scanner is connected to and which is running serproxy.
#
# SCANNER_PORT should be set to a port number defined in the serproxy
# configuration file (serproxy.cfg). By default,
# 5331 = COM1, 5332 = COM2, 5333 = COM3, and 5334 = COM4. If
# you need to use a higher COM port number you'll need to
# add it to the serproxy.cfg configuration file.
#

SCANNER_HOST=192.168.1.101
SCANNER_PORT=5331

#
# Icecast configuration
#
# Comment out the lines below if you are not using an Icecast
# server to have the alpha tags sent to SimpleCast.
#
# ICECAST_HOST should be set to the IP address or hostname of your
# Icecast server.
#
# ICECAST_PORT should be set to the port number your Icecast server
# is running on.
#
# ICECAST_URI Change "/live" to be the mount point your stream is using.
#
# ICECAST_USERNAME should be set to the same value as <admin-user> in the
# <authentication> section of your Icecast configuration
# file.
#
# ICECAST_PASSWORD should be set to the same value as <admin-password> in the
# <authentication> section of your Icecast configuration
# file.
#
# ICECAST_RESPONSE should not be changed.
#

ICECAST_HOST=audio1.radioreference.com AGAIN, MY SEVER IP OR RR IP ?
ICECAST_PORT=80
ICECAST_URI=/admin/metadata.xsl?mount=WHAT GOES HERE ?&mode=updinfo&song=%s
ICECAST_USERNAME=admin
ICECAST_PASSWORD=WHAT GOES HERE ?
ICECAST_RESPONSE=HTTP/1.0 200 OK

#
# SimpleCast configuration
#
# Uncomment the lines below to have alpha tags sent to SimpleCast
# instead of to an Icecast server.
#
# SIMPLECAST_HOST should be set to the IP address or hostname of the
# machine that is running SimpleCast.
#
# SIMPLECAST_PORT should be set to the port number SimpleCast has
# been configured to listen for meta-data on.
#
# SIMPLECAST_URI should not be changed.
#
# SIMPLECAST_RESPONSE should not be changed.
#

#SIMPLECAST_HOST=192.168.0.11
#SIMPLECAST_PORT=8181
#SIMPLECAST_URI=/update.html?title=%s&duration=0
#SIMPLECAST_RESPONSE=HTTP/1.1 200 OK

#
# Miscellaneous
#
# SEND_IDLE_AFTER After the specified number of seconds has passed with no
# audio, the title following "Scanning," in titles.txt is
# sent. Specify 0 to turn this off.
#
# SEND_UNKNOWN Set this to 1 if you would like for Talkgroup Monitor to
# send titles to Icecast/SimpleCast for frequencies and
# talkgroups not found in titles.txt, this is useful when
# the scanner is in search mode. Talkgroup Monitor will
# send "Talkgroup nnnn" or "nnn.nnnn MHz".
#
# SEND_AFTER_NO_TITLE_CHANGE
# After the specified number of seconds has passed with no
# title change, the title following "Scanning," in titles.txt
# is sent. Specify 0 to turn this off. Use this parameter
# if SEND_IDLE_AFTER seems to have no effect.
#
# SEND_DELAY Set this value to 1 if you need for Talkgroup Monitor to
# wait a certain amount of time before sending some titles to
# Icecast/SimpleCast. This is useful if your scanner stops
# on a particular frequency/talkgroup for a short time and
# then resumes scanning if the CTCSS code doesn't match or
# the talkgroup is encrypted. If you set this to 1 you
# *must* specify/add a delay value (in milliseconds) for each
# title defined in the titles.txt file.
#
# OLD_TITLE_MATCHING
# In versions before 3.3.1, due to the way the
# frequencies/talkgroups received from the scanner were
# compared to the values specified in the titles.txt file, if
# talkgroup 48 was received from the scanner, a line in
# titles.txt beginning with 48 (such as 48123) would be
# considered a match as well as a line specifying exactly 48.
# In versions 3.3.1 and later, frequencies/talkgroups
# received must match the frequency/talkgroup specified in the
# titles.txt file exactly. Set this parameter to 1 if you need
# for Talkgroup Monitor to perform title lookups like it did
# in earlier versions.
#

SEND_IDLE_AFTER=30
SEND_UNKNOWN=0
SEND_AFTER_NO_TITLE_CHANGE=0
SEND_DELAY=0
OLD_TITLE_MATCHING=0

Thanks and let me know if I need to provide other info,

Steve
 

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Here is my old file I use to use before I switched to scannercast software. Mine worked so you might want to compare it to yours and match it minus the login and password and the com port. I used COM 4 on my machine, so where ever it asks for the port just use the number for your's.

#
# Scanner connection parameters
#
#
# SCANNER_HOST should be set to the IP address or hostname of the machine
# your scanner is connected to and which is running serproxy.
#
# SCANNER_PORT should be set to a port number defined in the serproxy
# configuration file (serproxy.cfg). By default,
# 5331 = COM1, 5332 = COM2, 5333 = COM3, and 5334 = COM4. If
# you need to use a higher COM port number you'll need to
# add it to the serproxy.cfg configuration file.
#
SCANNER_HOST=192.168.1.111 (THIS IS MY MACHINE'S IP SO USE YOURS)
SCANNER_PORT=5334
#
# Icecast configuration
#
# Comment out the lines below if you are not using an Icecast
# server to have the alpha tags sent to SimpleCast.
#
# ICECAST_HOST should be set to the IP address or hostname of your
# Icecast server.
#
# ICECAST_PORT should be set to the port number your Icecast server
# is running on.
#
# ICECAST_URI Change "/live" to be the mount point your stream is using.
#
# ICECAST_USERNAME should be set to the same value as <admin-user> in the
# <authentication> section of your Icecast configuration
# file.
#
# ICECAST_PASSWORD should be set to the same value as <admin-password> in the
# <authentication> section of your Icecast configuration
# file.
#
# ICECAST_RESPONSE should not be changed.
#
##
ICECAST_HOST=audio1.radioreference.com
ICECAST_PORT=80
ICECAST_URI=/ms_jackson
ICECAST_USERNAME=YOUR STREAM'S USERNAME HERE
ICECAST_PASSWORD=YOUR STREAM'S PASSWORD HERE
ICECAST_RESPONSE=HTTP/1.0 200 OK
##
#
# SimpleCast configuration
#
# Uncomment the lines below to have alpha tags sent to SimpleCast
# instead of to an Icecast server.
#
# SIMPLECAST_HOST should be set to the IP address or hostname of the
# machine that is running SimpleCast.
#
# SIMPLECAST_PORT should be set to the port number SimpleCast has
# been configured to listen for meta-data on.
#
# SIMPLECAST_URI should not be changed.
#
# SIMPLECAST_RESPONSE should not be changed.
#
SIMPLECAST_HOST=192.168.1.111
SIMPLECAST_PORT=8181
SIMPLECAST_URI=/update.html?title=%s&duration=0
SIMPLECAST_RESPONSE=HTTP/1.1 200 OK
#
ICECAST_HOST=audio1.radioreference.com
ICECAST_PORT=80
ICECAST_URI=/admin/metadata.xsl?mount=/ms_jackson&mode=updinfo&song=%s
ICECAST_USERNAME=YOUR STREAM'S USERNAME HERE
ICECAST_PASSWORD=YOUR STREAM'S PASSWORD HERE
ICECAST_RESPONSE=HTTP/1.0 200 OK
#
# Miscellaneous
#
# SEND_IDLE_AFTER After the specified number of seconds has passed with no
# audio, the title following "Scanning," in titles.txt is
# sent. Specify 0 to turn this off.
#
# SEND_UNKNOWN Set this to 1 if you would like for Talkgroup Monitor to
# send titles to Icecast/SimpleCast for frequencies and
# talkgroups not found in Titles.txt, this is useful when
# the scanner is in search mode. Talkgroup Monitor will
# send "Talkgroup nnnn" or "nnn.nnnn MHz".
#
# SEND_AFTER_NO_TITLE_CHANGE
# After the specified number of seconds has passed with no
# title change, the title following "Scanning," in titles.txt
# is sent. Specify 0 to turn this off. Use this parameter
# if SEND_IDLE_AFTER seems to have no effect.
#
SEND_IDLE_AFTER=30
SEND_UNKNOWN=1
SEND_AFTER_NO_TITLE_CHANGE=10
 
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Okay, Talk Group Monitor is working, no more "not rcvd" messages and seems to be sending all correct titles but they're not making it to RR.

Is Icecast actually needed for this to work ? I can shutdown Icecast with no change in the feed from RR.
 

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I found this post: http://forums.radioreference.com/1242933-post5.html so I'm thinking that I need to run oddcast into my icecast then have my icecast send to RR's icecast , is that correct ?

With out alpha tags my feed is going to be quite useless with all the TG's active so if can't get it working I'll just shut it down with RR and do the feed myself but that's no good for the RR community.

A little help please !
 

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73Cuda:

Yes, you will need to have both Icecast & Oddcast running with Serproxy/TGM running to send alpha tags with your current model Uniden. The Icecast configuration file will need to match the server information tab in Oddcast. I have a couple old tutorials that show how set this up properly. I can e-mail those to you if you want?

Thanks - Mike
 

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Hi Mike,

I did have all 4 programs operating perfectly using no-ip and can go back to that but just not sure how to implement all 4 with the RR feed setup. So yes, please do email me your tut's to me at steve_destin@yahoo.com.

And thanks for your help !

Steve
 

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No email as of yet so I have another question, does the "Broadcasting Alpha Tags" option need to be selected as seen below ?

I looked in the wiki but didn't find anything on it. As of now, I'm streaming here: ocalascanner.no-ip.org:8000/live until I can figure out tags with the RR stream.
 

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