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When the MD-390 receives a DMR transmission with GPS coordinates from another radio, what does it do with the data? Does it display the coordinates, or distance/bearing to coordinates, or anything useful like that?
 

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If no one knows, does anyone have a link to download a PDF of the manual? There are numerous sources for the programming software, but nobody (including the manufacturer) seems to have the manual available to download.
 

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I was able to find a 1-page manual addendum that describes the GPS features. Supposedly there is a menu option that enables one to view the GPS coordinates of another radio, but the description was rather vague, and was obviously written by someone for whom English is not a primary language. It didn't sound like distance/bearing to the other radio was something you could display, just the raw coordinates.

What I was really hoping for was a report from an actual owner who could describe the usefulness of the GPS function. There's not much on Youtube except the obligatory/pointless unboxing videos and people dunking them in water.
 

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Ok no problem. Could possibly get hold of a manual for you but wouldn't be able to say how much detail is within it.

Thought about posting on a TYT facebook group??
 

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I Just got one of these... Can't find any info on it.

I'm BRAND NEW to DMR -- I've only done DStar.

I'm trying to get my Radio programmed to work on the Brand Meister - via a DV4Mini

I'm almost there but can't seem to get my DMR ID into the radio - I'm assuming it's done in the "serial number" field - it currently has "1" in that location and it won't let me edit it.

I ordered a prgm cable that I "think" may work --??? from Amazon.
I bought the radio from Radioddity -- it's thier brand but they have no support or accessories for the radio.

I'm trying to get this guy to work! can you be of help?
 

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The DMR ID will probably go into a box labeled "Radio ID", not "Serial Number". Beyond that I can't help unless I know what radio you actually bought.
 

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OK ... I have the Radioddity GD-55 - which looks EXACTLY like the MD-398

I don't see a see a settting for Radio ID from the handset confg/settings

this is what I found in the programming software ... Which I'm still awaiting a cable for ...
 

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Radio ID has to be set with software in most cases. You can't reprogram it from the front panel. It's what identifies the user on the network.
 

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I got a pair of -390s, and here's the scoop:

The radio supports 16 GPS "systems". The Report Interval setting in the system defines whether the radio pings its GPS location, how often it pings, and the user/talkgroup ID the ping is addressed to.

Digital channels have a GPS System setting.
If the GPS System is set to "None", GPS is disabled when the channel is selected.
If a system is selected with a Report Interval other than "Off", the GPS position of the radio will be periodically broadcast to the selected user/talkgroup ID.
If the channel's "Send GPS Info" box is checked, the radio's GPS position will be broadcast each time the mic is unkeyed.
If the channel's "Receive GPS Info" box is unchecked, the radio will ignore GPS ping broadcasts.

There is a menu option under Contacts where you can select an individual contact (not available for a talkgroup contact) and then select "ViewGPS" for that contact. Your radio will ping the contact's radio, and the if the contact radio's GPS is active, it will respond with its GPS coordinates and they will be displayed on-screen in DD MM.MMMM format.

GPS ping data is sent in the clear, even on channels with privacy enabled.
 

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So (again) the Question how to get the received GPS Data from other Radios out (and into an Phone, Handhelt Device, Laptop,...)?
 

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You'll need a DMR repeater with a TCP/IP network connection, and the appropriate software on the device to talk to the repeater and process the GPS data. The mobile radios need to be set to broadcast GPS periodically, or on mic unkey.
 

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Or DSD+ or some similar SDR decoder could be used to parse the GPS pings. You's have to interface with DSD+ somehow to use the decoded coordinate data.
 

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You'll need a DMR repeater with a TCP/IP network connection, and the appropriate software on the device to talk to the repeater and process the GPS data.
So when there is no where you have access to like Amateur Radio or direct Radio Transmission?
Or DSD+ or some similar SDR decoder could be used to parse the GPS pings.
sure thats the illegal way...
 

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So when there is no where you have access to like Amateur Radio or direct Radio Transmission?
I have no idea what that means.

You can't directly connect a computer to the HT to grab incoming GPS data, if that's what you're asking. Connecting the programming cable disconnects both the speaker and microphone, making that data connection pretty useless for sending or receiving digital data through the radio. If the radio had a separate USB jack and you could write custom firmware, that would be a different story.

sure thats the illegal way...
It's no more or less legal than scanning and decoding unencrypted digital voice traffic. In DMR, the GPS pings are unencrypted, meaning they are perfectly legal to decode in most jurisdictions.
 

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It's no more or less legal than scanning and decoding unencrypted digital voice traffic.
Amateur Radio Yes, Company Radio No.
meaning they are perfectly legal to decode in most jurisdictions.
DSD isnt legal because the break the copyright law.
Connecting the programming cable disconnects both the speaker and microphone, making that data connection pretty useless for sending or receiving digital data through the radio
There must be an Software to Send and Receive Data.
 

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Amateur Radio Yes, Company Radio No.
In the US it is legal to listen to amateur and business communications. Encryption is not allowed in the amateur bands, but it is allowed in the business bands. Decrypting encrypted radio traffic that is not intended for you is illegal, but listening to the encrypted bitstream without attempting to decrypt it is legal, regardless of the source of the encrypted bits.

DSD isnt legal because the break the copyright law.
You're wrong, at least with regard to US law.

There must be an Software to Send and Receive Data.
Not for a direct cable connection to the MD-380/390, for the reasons mentioned earlier. You either have to use a SDR program like DSD+ and capture the GPS data over the air, or connect to a DMR repeater with a network port.
 

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You're wrong, at least with regard to US law.
the US Law dont apply here.
Not for a direct cable connection to the MD-380/390
sure an what come out of the cable text files?
You either have to use a SDR program like DSD+ and capture the GPS data over the air, or connect to a DMR repeater with a network port.
sure dsd cant send data out of an radio and there is no Repeater.
 

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If you're not in the US (surprise surprise) mention where you are. Most RR members are in the US and the assumption is that US law applies when discussing legalities, unless you specify otherwise.

The short version is that the TYT radios will not do what you want them to do (direct cable connection to computer to send and receive GPS, SMS, or other data over the air). If that is important to you, you'll have to find a different brand of radio with a data connector that supports such functionality.

In the meantime, please take your off-topic thread hijack elsewhere.
 

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If you're not in the US (surprise surprise) mention where you are. Most RR members are in the US and the assumption is that US law applies when discussing legalities, unless you specify otherwise.
His location is cited as "AT" which is Austria...
 
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