RadioReference on Facebook   RadioReference on Twitter   RadioReference Blog
 

Go Back   The RadioReference.com Forums > Commercial, Professional Radio and Personal Radio > Budget and Entry Level Transceivers


Budget and Entry Level Transceivers - For discussion of budget or entry level radios such as Baofeng, Wouxun, Puxing and other radio communications designated as commercial but not targeted for Amateur or GMRS. Also included are MURS and ISM 900MHz designed radios.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #41 (permalink)  
Old 07-10-2017, 3:26 PM
Member
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: May 2016
Location: New York City, NY
Posts: 207
Default TYT MD-2017 Heads Up!

Quote:
Originally Posted by paulears View Post
You cannot be serious - every time you want to programme a radio you need a fresh install of the OS? Totally crazy.



The USB serial chips are sending tiny amounts of data on an ancient protocol that doesn't stretch a computer whatsoever! The issues with the ability to programme the radios are simply because the Usb to serial conversion is usually done on a very cheap IC that mimics the operation of the original one. Things have moved on with the original, and the drivers most of these Chinese radios are using is very dated, and the modern versions of Windows detect the driver is nowhere near the latest one, and replace it from the driver database - assuming that the latest one is the best one. The updated driver is fine on the latest genuine chip, but very flaky on the copies based on the very old versions. Using a separate computer to programme radios is what many of us do simply because of the hassle with windows 7,8 and 10. A new install of Windows is a simply ludicrous solution to poorly produced chips and old drivers. I dedicated a computer to radios simply because I had an old laptop laying around - but I can use another older Vista computer with loads of stuff on it perfectly, no need for a new OS. My other computers just hate programming some radios - My Icons and Kenwoods are fine on Windows any version. Kirisun works on most, TYT on about half and the few counterfeit Kenwoods I bought by mistake only work on two of the computers - XP and Vista. I can force windows 8 to load the legacy driver and then it works, but on next boot up, it puts the newer one back. The Baofengs are all a bit different - all work with the old computers, but even messing with drivers is unreliable with the 888s, ok on the 5s.


Is it more like you are too lazy just to make a bootable usb drive, do the OS install on it, add the programming software, label it for the radio you desire, then put it in a safe place along with the USB programming cable.

If you want people to read your posts, keep it short and sweet, you sound like a 80 meter windbag .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #42 (permalink)  
Old 07-10-2017, 3:42 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Lowestoft - UK
Posts: 349
Default

Sorry - thought we were adults capable of reading factual stuff and I didn't know I had to dumb down to ensure some people would be able to understand it.

I will try it again for you.

Do not install a new OS to programme your radios - it is STUPID. Like buying a new car because the remould tyres keep going flat.

Was that still too hard?

Here's an even easier version.

Computers are clever - they can do lots of things apart from programming radios.


Quote:
Is it more like you are too lazy just to make a bootable usb drive, do the OS install on it, add the programming software, label it for the radio you desire, then put it in a safe place along with the USB programming cable.
You want to use a bootable drive, with an OS on it just to programme a radio. The world is going mad - how much wasted effort is that?
Reply With Quote
  #43 (permalink)  
Old 07-10-2017, 4:24 PM
Member
   
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 124
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by paulears View Post
You want to use a bootable drive, with an OS on it just to programme a radio. The world is going mad - how much wasted effort is that?
All of it. That's how much is wasted.
Reply With Quote
  #44 (permalink)  
Old 07-10-2017, 5:09 PM
W9BU's Avatar
Lead Wiki Manager
  RadioReference Database Admininstrator
Database Admin
Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Brownsburg, Indiana
Posts: 5,121
Default

Folks, please tone it down. There's no need to call each other names in the forum.
__________________
Lead Wiki Manager and Forum Moderator.

"The whole world's living in a digital dream. It's not really there, it's all on the screen." -- WB6ACU
Reply With Quote
  #45 (permalink)  
Old 07-10-2017, 6:07 PM
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Santa Clarita Valley
Posts: 73
Default Working Fine on WIN-7

I am running windows-7 and software is working fine.. I finally did the firmware update... Got the discounted price was like $179ish.. Picked up a spare battery and speaker mic on Ebay... For the price I paid total, not bad...Its definitely has some issues, but for this price I am not *****ing... I will ***** about the software, would be nice to enter frees in an Excel type format.... Oh well... Good Luck All!

-Sean
__________________
Sean - WD6FOX ex KG6GTH
Reply With Quote
Sponsored links
  #46 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2017, 2:35 PM
Member
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Hammond, IN
Posts: 1,574
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by eaf1956 View Post
Awesome, And new firmware came out 7/7/2017 for the MD 2017. Be sure to get ver 1.16 of the programming software because that will read codeplugs from the MD 380.
I got my shiny new MD-2017 in this morning's mail. It's a good thing I got to it before it started raining! Now I just need to d/l the software and get this puppy programmed.
__________________
Bill
N4GIX - Ham / WQWU626 - GMRS
VV-898, TK-840(N), 2xTYT-7800, 2xUV5R v2+, HP1, BCD436HP, TMV7A, Ritron RRX-450 Repeater, MD-380, XPR7550, 2xCS800, Bridgecom BCR-40U Repeater, Elecraft KX3 + PX3
Reply With Quote
  #47 (permalink)  
Old 07-12-2017, 4:22 PM
eaf1956's Avatar
Member
  Shack Photos
Shack photos
Audio Feed Provider
Audio Feed Provider
Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Evansville, IN
Posts: 1,680
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by N4GIX View Post
I got my shiny new MD-2017 in this morning's mail. It's a good thing I got to it before it started raining! Now I just need to d/l the software and get this puppy programmed.
Glad to hear it! Have fun! 73s
__________________
Current scanners:BCD 996XT,BCD996P2
BCD536HP (2) and a SDS 100
Ham Gear: Icom 7000, U82, V82, V8, IC 2820, MD2017, Vertex Standard EVX 539, MD 9600, CS 800D, Yaesu FTM100 DR and a YAESU FTM400DR
Reply With Quote
  #48 (permalink)  
Old 07-13-2017, 6:20 AM
Member
   
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: 29640
Posts: 18
Default R&L

Hey guys,

the $149.00 price is still good from R&L, ordered mine yesterday. I am coming off a code plug from the 390 which was a 380 in the first place. I'm hoping updating the firmware and the 1.16 programming software will allow me to load the codeplug and build from there on the new 2017. thanks
Reply With Quote
  #49 (permalink)  
Old 07-13-2017, 8:32 AM
N9PBD's Avatar
Member
  Shack Photos
Shack photos
Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Southern Illinois (MetroEast St. Louis)
Posts: 366
Default

For everyone's information, TYT released another firmware update on Tuesday (July 11, 2017) that includes the ability to load the entire amateur radio DMR user database (65486 as of this morning) into the MD-2017, and adds a menu item that allows the radio to access the info and display it when a ham's CC7 code is received. http://www.tyt888.com/uploadfile/upf...0711144846.zip

Name:  19955948_1641045159238859_3814080320376072995_o.jpg
Views: 2152
Size:  69.2 KB
__________________
Greg, N9PBD / WQVW265 TM-D710GA, FTM-400DR, FTM-100DR, FT1DR, DR-1X (MMDVM), CS108G, XPR6550, CS800D, SDS100, BCD536HP, BCD436HP, TRX-2, BC796D, BC785D, IC-7610, IC-7300, IC-R75, IC-R7000
Reply With Quote
  #50 (permalink)  
Old 07-13-2017, 9:13 AM
N2AL's Avatar
Member
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 374
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by N9PBD View Post
For everyone's information, TYT released another firmware update on Tuesday (July 11, 2017) that includes the ability to load the entire amateur radio DMR user database (65486 as of this morning) into the MD-2017, and adds a menu item that allows the radio to access the info and display it when a ham's CC7 code is received. http://www.tyt888.com/uploadfile/upf...0711144846.zip



Attachment 60291


Fancy. Looks like TYT has copied from the MD380tools playbook! Although after using 'tools I still am accustomed to he features provided.

Thanks for the information and 73!
__________________

Andrew | N2AL
Nurture your mind with great thought. To believe in the heroic makes heroes. - Benjamin Disraeli
Reply With Quote
  #51 (permalink)  
Old 07-13-2017, 12:04 PM
Member
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Hammond, IN
Posts: 1,574
Default

Well, the VHF works just fine, but I'm having difficulty with the UHF DMR operation. TG#2 (true local) on chan1 will only be heard when rollerballing between chan4 and chan5, and then only if someone is already talking.

I've seen nothing in the codeplug to account for this so far.

As for the new firmware and ability to import a full .csv file with all contacts, I think I'll hold off on that until someone who can write comprehensible English posts some detailed explanation.
__________________
Bill
N4GIX - Ham / WQWU626 - GMRS
VV-898, TK-840(N), 2xTYT-7800, 2xUV5R v2+, HP1, BCD436HP, TMV7A, Ritron RRX-450 Repeater, MD-380, XPR7550, 2xCS800, Bridgecom BCR-40U Repeater, Elecraft KX3 + PX3

Last edited by N4GIX; 07-13-2017 at 12:14 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #52 (permalink)  
Old 07-13-2017, 7:10 PM
eaf1956's Avatar
Member
  Shack Photos
Shack photos
Audio Feed Provider
Audio Feed Provider
Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Evansville, IN
Posts: 1,680
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by N9PBD View Post
For everyone's information, TYT released another firmware update on Tuesday (July 11, 2017) that includes the ability to load the entire amateur radio DMR user database (65486 as of this morning) into the MD-2017, and adds a menu item that allows the radio to access the info and display it when a ham's CC7 code is received. http://www.tyt888.com/uploadfile/upf...0711144846.zip

Attachment 60291
Wow I like your CSV file better than the one I used. Is it World Wide?
__________________
Current scanners:BCD 996XT,BCD996P2
BCD536HP (2) and a SDS 100
Ham Gear: Icom 7000, U82, V82, V8, IC 2820, MD2017, Vertex Standard EVX 539, MD 9600, CS 800D, Yaesu FTM100 DR and a YAESU FTM400DR
Reply With Quote
  #53 (permalink)  
Old 07-13-2017, 7:45 PM
Member
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Hammond, IN
Posts: 1,574
Default

Oh my, it seems that one has to have Excel installed before the .csv file can be read, formatted, and uploaded to the radio.
__________________
Bill
N4GIX - Ham / WQWU626 - GMRS
VV-898, TK-840(N), 2xTYT-7800, 2xUV5R v2+, HP1, BCD436HP, TMV7A, Ritron RRX-450 Repeater, MD-380, XPR7550, 2xCS800, Bridgecom BCR-40U Repeater, Elecraft KX3 + PX3
Reply With Quote
  #54 (permalink)  
Old 07-13-2017, 8:51 PM
teufler's Avatar
Member
  Premium Subscriber
Premium Subscriber
Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: ST PETERS, MISSOURI
Posts: 2,344
Default

when I load in the new firm,ware, the install bar goes about 1/2 way, steady climb to that point, then in hangs there rfor while, the displays successful. Still no database info displayed. Same as before. using window 7, I sent from 1.13 to 1.17.
__________________
WD0GSYDMR ID 3129226 AND 3129304
BC-396XT,780XLT,TENTEC PARAGON, TYT-2017, MD-390, DM-5R+, ANYTONE 5888,VX10, VX7, VX3,TERMN-8R, F8-HP, GT3, UV-5, UV-3R, WOUXUN UV-8D,JUENTAI UV8DR,
Reply With Quote
  #55 (permalink)  
Old 07-13-2017, 8:59 PM
eaf1956's Avatar
Member
  Shack Photos
Shack photos
Audio Feed Provider
Audio Feed Provider
Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Evansville, IN
Posts: 1,680
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by teufler View Post
when I load in the new firm,ware, the install bar goes about 1/2 way, steady climb to that point, then in hangs there rfor while, the displays successful. Still no database info displayed. Same as before. using window 7, I sent from 1.13 to 1.17.
For the MD 2017:

Firmware is 3.033

CPS is 1.17

And even after you update the firmware to the 3.33 CSV firmware NOT the 3.33 REC firmware, You still have to IMPORT a CSV file of contacts and write them to the radio. Not to mention turning on CSV Contacts in the radio Utility menu.

What I did was went to DMR MARC and did a data dump of the world DMR contacts. Converted it to a CSV file which was relatively easy.

Then go to "Write Contacts" under the program menu, "IMPORT" the CSV file, In the same dialog box "WRITE" to the radio after it says upload successful. Note: It takes a while to write to the radio.

Before the radio uses the CSV contacts go to the Utilities menu in the radio itself and turn on CSV contacts
__________________
Current scanners:BCD 996XT,BCD996P2
BCD536HP (2) and a SDS 100
Ham Gear: Icom 7000, U82, V82, V8, IC 2820, MD2017, Vertex Standard EVX 539, MD 9600, CS 800D, Yaesu FTM100 DR and a YAESU FTM400DR

Last edited by eaf1956; 07-13-2017 at 9:07 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #56 (permalink)  
Old 07-14-2017, 4:42 AM
Member
   
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 56
Default

hi, for notice ..... i ahve create a simply GUIDE with the instruction to put into the radio this CVS

for all WW databse ham radio , over 65,000 contact !


And there are the solutions of some problems.


here:

https://rodolfo-parisio.jimdo.com/nuovi-articoli-2017/

(in the middle of the page in the section "DMR Radio.... "


best 73 de IW2BSF - Rudy
Attached Images
 
Reply With Quote
  #57 (permalink)  
Old 07-18-2017, 3:05 AM
Member
   
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 56
Default

After the BIG problem of the sma antenna connector :

https://forums.radioreference.com/bu...ml#post2791131


another HW problem:

the Trackball !!


its a nEW radio and have some problems.... TYT not have QC quality control and not used a good materials, very BAD , hi


73
Reply With Quote
  #58 (permalink)  
Old 07-18-2017, 3:41 AM
Member
   
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Lowestoft - UK
Posts: 349
Default

Reality Check!

If you buy a Motorola, Hytera, kenwood, Icom or other premium brand radio you spend a LOT of money, and you get a well designed, tested and sampled product.

You choose a brand new, untested, untrialled CHEAP radio and then complain about it? You can buy a Rolls Royce or you can buy a cheap go to the shops motor. Slagging the cheap car off because it doesn't have quality leather, and the stereo is a bit tinny sounding is not relevant.

You cannot have everything. If you kick the exhaust pipe of your shopping car, does it fall off? You can stand on the Rolls Royce one!

These radios are amazingly specified for the price - even with all the reported 'faults' - don't drop them, don't put them under water, don't expect a battery that lasts days. What can you buy with the money you spent on it? Be honest, not an awful lot!
Reply With Quote
  #59 (permalink)  
Old 07-18-2017, 6:08 AM
N2AL's Avatar
Member
  Amateur Radio Operator
Amateur Radio
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 374
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by paulears View Post
Reality Check!



If you buy a Motorola, Hytera, kenwood, Icom or other premium brand radio you spend a LOT of money, and you get a well designed, tested and sampled product.



You choose a brand new, untested, untrialled CHEAP radio and then complain about it? You can buy a Rolls Royce or you can buy a cheap go to the shops motor. Slagging the cheap car off because it doesn't have quality leather, and the stereo is a bit tinny sounding is not relevant.



You cannot have everything. If you kick the exhaust pipe of your shopping car, does it fall off? You can stand on the Rolls Royce one!



These radios are amazingly specified for the price - even with all the reported 'faults' - don't drop them, don't put them under water, don't expect a battery that lasts days. What can you buy with the money you spent on it? Be honest, not an awful lot!


I am a big proponent of getting what you pay for. But I spent $50 and picked up a Tytera MD380 and I have been genuinely surprised with its usefulness, and it's reliability!

This radio's battery life resembles the life of my Kenwood TK-2180 & 3180, and the audio quality and receive/transmit capability rivals it as well.

My only dislikes are the audio level displayed on the screen, and that each bank is limited to 16 channels.

Of course like all radios regardless of manufacturer, don't baptize them by fire, or water. Don't drop test them either. Doing so is bound to cause damage that may be irreversible.

So all in all, the best $50 so far I've spent on a radio I'd for the Tytera MD380.
__________________

Andrew | N2AL
Nurture your mind with great thought. To believe in the heroic makes heroes. - Benjamin Disraeli
Reply With Quote
  #60 (permalink)  
Old 07-18-2017, 6:11 AM
Member
   
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 124
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by paulears View Post
Reality Check!

If you buy a Motorola, Hytera, kenwood, Icom or other premium brand radio you spend a LOT of money, and you get a well designed, tested and sampled product.

You choose a brand new, untested, untrialled CHEAP radio and then complain about it? You can buy a Rolls Royce or you can buy a cheap go to the shops motor. Slagging the cheap car off because it doesn't have quality leather, and the stereo is a bit tinny sounding is not relevant.

You cannot have everything. If you kick the exhaust pipe of your shopping car, does it fall off? You can stand on the Rolls Royce one!

These radios are amazingly specified for the price - even with all the reported 'faults' - don't drop them, don't put them under water, don't expect a battery that lasts days. What can you buy with the money you spent on it? Be honest, not an awful lot!
Material quality etc is one thing... the SMA connector being trash and the only way to navigate menus not working well is a very different thing. You simply can not use the radio if one or both no longer work.

Also.. You might want to spend less time at the pub before banging up responses such as this...
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 4:54 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
All information here is Copyright 2012 by RadioReference.com LLC and Lindsay C. Blanton III.Ad Management by RedTyger
Copyright 2015 by RadioReference.com LLC Privacy Policy  |  Terms and Conditions