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swrvninmypala

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hello i just bought a new cobra ltd classic radio. i was wondering how should i adjust my rf gain in relation to my squelch to get better reception?
 

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That is exactly what the RF gain is for and basically how its intended to be used for SSB and CW. It doesn't defeat the AGC in any radio I have used and it can give you perfectly good signals popping out of a velvety quiet background. RF gain is less useful in AM mode.

I'm listening to a net on 80m this way right now and you would think everyone is full quieting in FM mode, no noise floor whatsoever.

Some CW ops set and forget the volume control and use the RF gain to adjust the noise floor and volume together.

If a signal is so strong it distorts you would engage an ATTENUATOR if the radio has it (atten is at the front end of the radio), the RF gain on some radios has little to no effect on overload.
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That defeats the AGC.
 
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Every radio schematic I have looked at that had an RF gain control used the RF gain control to override the AGC voltage.

The reason you hear so much quieting is that reducing the effectiveness of the AGC lets the noise floor sound as weak as it really is since the AGC is less able to boost it. I have used that technique myself. It was pretty effective on channel 19 back in the day.

As you stated below, the RF gain can sometimes be used to help clear up distortion. No single control can be expected to clear it every time.

That is exactly what the RF gain is for and basically how its intended to be used for SSB and CW. It doesn't defeat the AGC in any radio I have used and it can give you perfectly good signals popping out of a velvety quiet background. RF gain is less useful in AM mode.

I'm listening to a net on 80m this way right now and you would think everyone is full quieting in FM mode, no noise floor whatsoever.

Some CW ops set and forget the volume control and use the RF gain to adjust the noise floor and volume together.

If a signal is so strong it distorts you would engage an ATTENUATOR if the radio has it (atten is at the front end of the radio), the RF gain on some radios has little to no effect on overload.
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I'd like to toss in a vote in favor of the technique being discussed here--reducing RF Gain until just a crackle or pop is heard from the RX. Once any kind of decent signal is there, you'll hear it. Sometimes it works really well depending on conditions and the equipment being used.

I sometimes do this with my 10 meter standby radio, which is set to 28.400 most of the time and just sitting there waiting to let me know if 10 meters comes alive.
 
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On a CB, RF gain fully clockwise, squelch fully counter clockwise. That way you can here all signals not just "decent" ones. RG-8X or M for swr meter. Don't buy doosey/workman, buy Diamond/Diawa. Check eham.net reviews on meters before you buy. I sure wish the rain would stop.
 

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On a CB, RF gain fully clockwise, squelch fully counter clockwise. That way you can here all signals not just "decent" ones. RG-8X or M for swr meter. Don't buy doosey/workman, buy Diamond/Diawa. Check eham.net reviews on meters before you buy. I sure wish the rain would stop.
Turn off the Faucet then :D
 

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On a CB, RF gain fully clockwise, squelch fully counter clockwise. That way you can here all signals not just "decent" ones. RG-8X or M for swr meter. Don't buy doosey/workman, buy Diamond/Diawa. Check eham.net reviews on meters before you buy. I sure wish the rain would stop.

good deal
 
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