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Old 08-23-2016, 8:36 PM
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That still makes me laugh. When is the FCC going to wake up.
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Old 08-23-2016, 8:52 PM
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That still makes me laugh. When is the FCC going to wake up.
It's not a matter of them "waking up" it's going to take legislation to modify the ECPA. There's nothing there to monitor anyway so we arent losing out on anything.
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Old 08-23-2016, 8:59 PM
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It's not a matter of them "waking up" it's going to take legislation to modify the ECPA. There's nothing there to monitor anyway so we arent losing out on anything.
Exactly my point. There is nothing there to monitor. So why is it taking so long to modify the ECPA. I know its a moot point but come-on. It's been quite a few years now since cell went digital.
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Exactly my point. There is nothing there to monitor. So why is it taking so long to modify the ECPA. I know its a moot point but come-on. It's been quite a few years now since cell went digital.
Many times, once a law in on the books, it takes heaven & earth to get that law removed. In this case, since there is nothing to listen to within that frequency spectrum, some would argue that it is a waste of time and energy to repeal the law. From a hobbyist standpoint, I don't necessarily agree, but that's the argument many will make.

Not that it is within the same purview, but all across the country, laws have remained on the books for hundreds and years simply because their original intents had long ago lost their purpose. For laughs, take a look here. You'll notice that many of these were never repealed and are still "on the books":

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...So why is it taking so long to modify the ECPA...
Because nobody cares (except possibly you.)
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Gentlemen, let's keep the discussion focused on the new radios being released by Icom.

Debating the ECPA is a topic for another thread (and forum).

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It's not a matter of them "waking up" it's going to take legislation to modify the ECPA. There's nothing there to monitor anyway so we arent losing out on anything.
Except when there is something there because they needed more spectrum for trunking you'll need a new radio to monitor it.
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The key to the success of the new IC-R8600 will likely be the price. .....
Yup. I'm hoping it is less than a IC-7300, but I'm not sure that that is how they see it. I hope they can find a price that will generate the right volume of sales for them to make a decent profit and that that price is within reach. I think even if it is the same price as the 7300 they might do OK with it.
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Was at a show in June and showed the Icom rep, a picture of my stack of communication receivers with the ARD25s next to them and he pulled out a note pad and started writing stuff down about the ARD25s. Wondering if they may try a add on digital decoder?

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I'm pretty sure that Icom's IDAS will be the NXDN flavor these radios will cover - but will they trunk? Time will tell, I guess...Mike
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Does Icom support DMR ?
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According to the last available description, no

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Hello,

I would not be surprised if the Icom receivers only did very narrow (6.25KHz) NXDN as the Icom commerical NXDN radios do not support the narrow (12.5K) version.

The over-the-air protocol makes it very easy to exclude receiving any trunking systems. It can be locked down to only receive conventional voice.

There have been several Icom radios over the years that had disappointing limitations, like the R2500 that initially would not do P25 above 800 MHz, and the built-in IC-7000 RTTY decoder that does not support 850 Hz shift. There always seems to be some deal killer in the feature set for me.

It will be interesting to compare the performance to the R9500.

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The current (F3400) Icom radios do both flavors of NXDN
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I wish the R-30 would have a oled screen. Price on the 8600 I bet the farm on it 4000 plus!
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Price on the 8600 I bet the farm on it 4000 plus!
If it is that much, and given that it is based on the IC-7300, it had better have some absolutely incredibly must-have whiz-bang features to set it apart from the 7300 or Icom won't be selling any. The 7300 is $1400 at Universal Radio and HRO.

I am very interested to see where Icom prices the 8600.
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The majority of 8500's sold were to government agencies. I highly doubt the business plan for the 8600 was to make it profitable by selling enough to hams.
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Hello,

I would think they would keep the same price point as the R-8500, $2000. Yes it is still higher than the 7300, but it trades the transmitter for wider receive frequency range.

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I do hope they have made improvements to the crappy audio output that was on the R20.
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2016年8月20日 ... IC-R8600は10kHz〜3GHzをカバー、各種デジタル通信にも対応し、リアルタイム スペクトラムスコープ&ウォーターフォールを搭載している。 アイコムの ... また発売開始 時期は未定、実勢価格は20万円台が目標との説明があった.
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