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Old 12-28-2017, 6:53 PM
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We're not going to list information of this type on RadioReference. As it's sole purpose is to restrict access, it could be (very) loosely considered in the same category as encryption.
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We're not going to list information of this type on RadioReference. As it's sole purpose is to restrict access, it could be (very) loosely considered in the same category as encryption.
So, then, by this logic, all notes about encryption being in use should be removed from the DB.
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So, then, by this logic, all notes about encryption being in use should be removed from the DB.
And following that logic to its conclusion, all encrypted talkgroups should be dropped as well. However that would adversely affect the radio shops that use RR for a data source

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And following that logic to its conclusion, all encrypted talkgroups should be dropped as well. However that would adversely affect the radio shops that use RR for a data source

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Which brings us full circle.

Is RR now a reference source for commercial radio shops who program transmitters, or is it intended for the scanner and shortwave listener who should not have user access to the radio systems being monitored?

You cannot have it both ways.
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Which brings us full circle.

Is RR now a reference source for commercial radio shops who program transmitters, or is it intended for the scanner and shortwave listener who should not have user access to the radio systems being monitored?

You cannot have it both ways.
I picked up on that contradiction as well..... thanks.
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And following that logic to its conclusion, all encrypted talkgroups should be dropped as well. However that would adversely affect the radio shops that use RR for a data source

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Why not drop encrypted talk groups?
Does a radio shop or any user need them anyway!?

A radio shop programming radio should NOT be using RR as a soul source anyway!!!

From experience I can tell you there are many mistakes in the Data Bases for trunking and conventional systems.
Should I do my part and correct the info???? My answer is no.
Because I don't' want to take away from the fun of scanner world discovering things. That would be rude!
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BUT NOT the KEY.... SO you can still be bricked or locked out by system admin. For in depth facts, go to the system forums, lots of technical info on how it works in depth there.

By adding whether RAS is in use or not is much the same. With out the RAS key you can still be bricked and will not recover audio.


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By adding whether RAS is in use or not is much the same. With out the RAS key you can still be bricked and will not recover audio.


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Why not drop encrypted talk groups?
Does a radio shop or any user need them anyway!?

A radio shop programming radio should NOT be using RR as a soul source anyway!!!

From experience I can tell you there are many mistakes in the Data Bases for trunking and conventional systems.
Should I do my part and correct the info???? My answer is no.
Because I don't' want to take away from the fun of scanner world discovering things. That would be rude!
To have encrypted talkgroups identified in the database may be helpful for scanner programming so users have a way to easily lock them out or to use a scanner's feature of silencing the encryption noise. Especially for those with a premium membership that want to push a button and program their scanner with their local counties. Removing encrypted talk groups / frequencies would lessen the overall value of the information in the database.

And as for correcting wrong information, no one is obligated to do this. The database is only as good as what you and I submit. I would say it's a contribution to the hobby to go ahead and submit corrections. I think one big problem is old information that gets outdated and is never removed or corrected.
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