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Old 02-10-2015, 4:33 PM
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Question TERA TR-505 GMRS/MURS Recreational Handheld Radio

Seems like a neat handheld that does GMRS (+Repeaters) and MURS with a removable/detachable antenna.

TERA TR-505 GMRS/MURS Recreational Handheld Radio [TR-505] - $104.99

The FCC ID seems to be 2ACK8TR505, but I cannot find any part grants on the FCC database even though the website claims it to be Part 95 compliant.

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Hmm.... they may have sneaked it by. No mention of MURS on the grant for that ID. The FCC has stated before that they would not approve radios that will work in more than one radio service (FRS/GMRS exception)

Here is the grant URL:

https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/tcb/repor..._id=2ACK8TR505
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Wow. Nice find, KD8DVR. -- That's very odd.

Also, the submitted user's manual to the FCC makes no mention of MURS but the PDF manual located here:

http://www.powerwerx.com/download/TE...ser_Manual.pdf

Mentions MURS right off the bat on the first page. Then later in the manual, shows the pre-programmed MURS channels to be Channels 12-16.

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According to the websight, there is a programming cable and software available. This seems odd for a radio with services that use fixed frequencies. The 7.4 volt battery also suggests power output above the MURS limit, although no output is specified. The manual http://www.powerwerx.com/download/TE...ser_Manual.pdf states two power levels. 5 watts is available for VHF according to the specs.
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All the documentation (and I just skimmed it, didn't read every page in detail) up on the FCC database only mentions the UHF functionality of the radio. Take a look at the user manual for example: it's different than the one on the powerwerx site. The one the FCC has up only mentions the GMRS capabilities.
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FCC ID shows 1.1 watts on UHF.

No thanks, I'll pass.

Really sad to see the FCC is obviously not paying attention to what is getting passed through their system.
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The pre-programmed channels make no sense.
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FCC ID shows 1.1 watts on UHF.

No thanks, I'll pass.

Really sad to see the FCC is obviously not paying attention to what is getting passed through their system.
Funny how no one bothers to look at the details.
And the emission designator... 10K3F3E... WTF kind of bogus horse manure is that?? Motorola Astro data... but not really???
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Really disappointing to see that PowerWerx is misrepresenting this product.
I guess they're really no different than buying some counterfeit 95% new cheeseburger on ebay.
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More proof that Radio Spectrum Sales and Leasing LLC dba the Federal Communications Commission only verifies one box on the form, the remittance portion!

Welcome to the United Corporate States of America.
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Funny how no one bothers to look at the details.
And the emission designator... 10K3F3E... WTF kind of bogus horse manure is that?? Motorola Astro data... but not really???
No doubt lowered deviation to keep all the crap within the 12.5KHz channel.

Oh, wait, GMRS allows 25KHz.
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I think that the FRS channels in the 467.xxx range are required to have less than 12.5 khz deviation. Probably to minimize repeater input interference.

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I think that the FRS channels in the 467.xxx range are required to have less than 12.5 khz deviation. Probably to minimize repeater input interference.

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Still not the right emission designator.
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It only has the first 3 repeater pairs programmed into it. (550/575/600) The Tera users manual also states it'll run 400-470 MHz as well as 136-174 MHz.

Take note, Powerwerx has pulled the radio off their page.
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It only has the first 3 repeater pairs programmed into it. (550/575/600) The Tera users manual also states it'll run 400-470 MHz as well as 136-174 MHz.

Take note, Powerwerx has pulled the radio off their page.
dooh! Busted!?
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It only has the first 3 repeater pairs programmed into it. (550/575/600) The Tera users manual also states it'll run 400-470 MHz as well as 136-174 MHz.

Take note, Powerwerx has pulled the radio off their page.
They are back for sale now.

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Amazing how many of these companies will happily ignore the rules to make a few bucks. Integrity is gone, greed and profit has replaced it.
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Hmm.... they may have sneaked it by. No mention of MURS on the grant for that ID.
I noticed this last year when the grants were issued.
There are two FCC IDs
2ACK8TR505 which is GMRS only and
2ACK8TR505D which is GMRS/MURS and apparently was never produced or sold.
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Amazing how many of these companies will happily ignore the rules to make a few bucks. Integrity is gone, greed and profit has replaced it.
Yeah. They are trying the same tricks AnytoneTech. Tried...wonder how long it will take them to get nailed.
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I noticed this last year when the grants were issued.
There are two FCC IDs
2ACK8TR505 which is GMRS only and
2ACK8TR505D which is GMRS/MURS and apparently was never produced or sold.
Likely..."Forgot" to include all the specs...to clear the fcc....then sell them as dual service.

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