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Old 06-22-2018, 1:51 PM
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Default Digital Repeater in Western Massachusetts

Does anyone know who the heck put up a digital repeater in or near Western Massachusetts?
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What GMRS freq? What is the mode, DMR or P25?


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462.700

Not sure what mode he is using as I dont have a digital radio. No need to have a digital radio on GMRS as it isn't legal to use.

I am wondering if some radio shop has set up a bootleg digital repeater for someone who probably has no idea what GMRS even is. I do have my suspicions about who's repeater this might be but I would have to take a 100 mile round trip road trip to be sure.
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You know, the FCC enforcement bureau doesn't really pay much attention to GMRS - BUT, if someone had a .700 repeater on the air that was North of Line A - you might get them interested in a border issue with Canada.

Too bad Western Mass isn't north of line A. Are you SURE it's in Western Mass? If someone over the border in Vermont was picking up Digital on 462.700 they might be a better source of an enforcement complaint.

Just thinking out loud.

Some GMRS folks believe that Line A disappeared in the most recent revision of the Part 95 rules -- but I think that was more of a typo than a purposeful change in the border agreements with Canada. This might be a good way to get an official FCC ruling on it, but I don't have a dog in that hunt.
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I'll be running between Springfield/East Longmeadow, MA and Enfield, CT next week, would the signal be readable in those areas? If so I'll be able to receive most of the digital modes.



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462.700

Not sure what mode he is using as I dont have a digital radio. No need to have a digital radio on GMRS as it isn't legal to use.

I am wondering if some radio shop has set up a bootleg digital repeater for someone who probably has no idea what GMRS even is. I do have my suspicions about who's repeater this might be but I would have to take a 100 mile round trip road trip to be sure.
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I get it in the Westfield area, but I have a feeling that it is coming from a Northerly direction, maybe around Northampton?
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I'll let you know if I hear something by mid next week and if I do I'll post what digital mode it is.


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I get it in the Westfield area, but I have a feeling that it is coming from a Northerly direction, maybe around Northampton?
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I wish the FCC would permit DMR and/or P25 on GMRS. It would be most useful to keep the rif-raf off some problematic systems.

Also to add, there is a network of repeaters in northern NJ called BlueCom. They are using P25 on GMRS regularly.
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Old 06-27-2018, 7:27 AM
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I was listening on a trip through south western MA and into Enfield, CT and only heard analog FM traffic on 462.700. What time of day or night does the digital mode show up?


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Also to add, there is a network of repeaters in northern NJ called BlueCom. They are using P25 on GMRS regularly.
Which GMRS frequency are you hearing that on?
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While digital voice modes are still a "no-no" on GMRS, short message texting and GMRS became legal last year. Could this be what you're hearing? I'm hearing a bit of it in my area.

Link to FCC site regarding GMRS texting/GPS:

https://www.fcc.gov/general-mobile-radio-service-gmrs
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Which GMRS frequency are you hearing that on?
462.600 MHz. Most Bluecom repeaters are on this same frequency.
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Which GMRS frequency are you hearing that on?
BlueCom Emergency Network uses 462.600

https://www.mygmrs.com/networks?action=view&id=272

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