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Old 04-11-2018, 1:15 PM
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Default P7200 to listen to P25 system.

Many of the local gov’t agencies are leaving their analog 800 systems, & going to P25 700/800 systems. While I’ve used MTS2000’s, & XTS3000’s to listen to them for years, they wont work soon. The new Motorola radios must affiliate with the system, although there is a way to trick the radios to not affiliate. While I’m not comfortsble with that, I’m told Harris rsdios can turn off auto affiliate in the CPS. The problem is all the 7200’s I see for sale are old Edacs, or Open Sky radios, not P25. The option code needed when the options are displayed is 39. None seem to have that. When an option upgrade is needed for a Motorola, it just means sending the radio somewhere, & the radio comes back with the required features. But from what i hear, it’s not that easy for a Harris rafio. Or is it? I have no interest in a scanner, as they seem to have weak receive audio, snd a poor front end. Anyone have any tips to get a Harris radio to do what i need. Please, no radio police, & no mention of the word scanner.
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Old 04-11-2018, 5:38 PM
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Here is one option: P7300 (P7370) Portable Radio and he even does programming if you buy from them: Programming Policy

I have purchased two radios from them in the past, and never had any issues with either one of them.
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They do show up on eBay from time to time. Some sellers are shady in their listing tactics...listing options the radio capable of, not actually equipped.
As long as you use RPM10 or earlier, most systems do not need a key, and setting it to not affiliate (not register) is very easy. But adding 39 will cost $$$ at a Harris dealer. No shipping it off to someone to “hit it with depot”. The options are encrypted by Harris to the radio ESN. Plus RPM is licensed to the computer, so you can’t just download it.

Another option is a Unication. Not a Motorola or Harris, but far better than a scanner and no programming tricks needed.
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I have an P7200 that works well and P7300 that will do it too love them both.
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Just to be clear, option 39 is P25 Trunking, Option 33 is Conv P25
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P7100's work just as well, provided you don't need 700mhz (it's 800 only). P7200/7300 etc are 7/800mhz capable. I've seen lots of 7100's on eBay (with trunking) at decent prices. Also be prepared to spend $100 on a programming cable (there aren't many places to source them from so they are pricey).

All that aside, they do work very well. I have an M7100 in my vehicle and an XG75 portable and they work great. I've previously had P7100s and 7200s as well and they work very well (they are a solid brick of a radio... about the size of an XTS5000, give or take).
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Oh, and be wary of other features in the radio too, such as the number of trunked personalities that it supports. Some are very crippled in that department (I had a 7100 that would only support 128 talkgroups across all systems... which sucked). Unlocking it to 65k cost me about $150 if I recall.
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39 is the feature I need. There is plenty of 700 here, so Iím thinking 7200, or 7300. I still have 3-4 months before the analog system is gone. The other alternative is the NAS using my 2500. Doing that I donít need to buy anything. Just find someone smarter than me to program it.
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+1 for the Unication G4/G5 units. Another option is the BK KNG-P800 or KNG2-P800. I have the KNG2 and its a great radio and the software is designed to be used as RX only straight from the factory.
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I would get a BK KNG before I would get a P7200 or 7300. I have had XTS APX XG100 P7100 M7300 and KNG. For monitor only, the KNG is the easiest to program and use. It receives great and get firmware updates unlike the P7x00 radios
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Also be prepared to spend $100 on a programming cable (there aren't many places to source them from so they are pricey).

Some of you may or may not be aware of this little tid-bit...

The original (1990's-early 2000's vintage) M-RK programming cable (TQ-3368 or PN# RPM 113 2472/3 with the square rubber over-molded UDC connector, which used the TQ-3370 Programming Interface box will program the following radios:

  • M-RK
  • LPE-50
  • LPE-200
  • J700p
  • P5100
  • P5200
  • P7100
  • P7200

It was in the mid-2000's when they switched from the generic over-molded UDC connector to radio specific connectors did things get complicated.

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Some of you may or may not be aware of this little tid-bit...

The original (1990's-early 2000's vintage) M-RK programming cable (TQ-3368 or PN# RPM 113 2472/3 with the square rubber over-molded UDC connector, which used the TQ-3370 Programming Interface box will program the following radios:

  • M-RK
  • LPE-50
  • LPE-200
  • J700p
  • P5100
  • P5200
  • P7100
  • P7200

It was in the mid-2000's when they switched from the generic over-molded UDC connector to radio specific connectors did things get complicated.

Yeah, I've been able to program the LPE 200, Jaguar 700p, P5100, P7100 and P7200 using the exact same cable. Cables are about $100. Software on the other hand....good luck.
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