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Old 04-18-2007, 6:00 PM
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They will charge if you wanted to upgrade a feature. The cost varies on the requested feature.

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Do they charge for that?
Like.. to get a new string?
Or all depends what i want...
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Old 04-19-2007, 8:34 AM
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WCRadio is correct. If want to add a new feature to the radio, there is a cost per feature and the different features have different costs. If you simply want to know what is currently in your radio, then there is no cost.
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The list shows 39 and 40 as not assigned but I've seen an "engineer's toy" 700p (System model, RU series) with all 40 options listed in the options screen.

Freaky, man.

The radio is so packed full of stuff that when you change systems, it takes about two seconds for the radio to catch up!


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Anyone have an update on what Option 30 is yet?
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I answered my own question.

Option 30: Limited Feature Expansion (LPE-50 / P5100)
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Here are more updated feature options:

35 P25 Over-The-Air ReKeying (OTAR)
37 AES Encryption
38 TextLink
39 P25 Trunking
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Option 40 is still in the testing phase and has not been released yet.
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FYI Your radio is a Field Engineers radio with conflicting options only designed for testing purposes. Not rated for actual end user use because the radio is full of bugs and errors. To a expert M/A-Com buyer they would stay away from radios such as that one. Its okay to use it as a scanner, but I wouldnt let my life depend on it as a firefighter or Law Enforcement officer for actual real life field use because the radio may fail.

Funny thing is those radios actaully sell higher in ebay auctions then the legit M/A-Com radios because people are fooled about all the feature numbers. But the truth those radios are worthless to a legit system operator because in order to use them on a actual system, firmware upgrades & the feature stream would have to be completly changed costing over $1,000 so many legit M/A-Com System users are left with a hefty bill or a paperweight when they thought they were getting a good deal turns into a disaster.

I'm not downing these types of radios, as I said before. They make good scanners, or if you buy a radio like this for a couple of hundred dollars it would still be a good deal. But you legit system operators out there, be careful what you buy.

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I am trying to get Pro-Voice on my Orion. Currently I do not have the feature "29" loaded in the radio. Is there a download "patch" or something I can get from someone/somewhere to install into my radio? I have the ProGrammer software and the Radio Maintenance Software. Please advise, thanks.
Orions are a pain in the butt to upgrade. First you must have a 512K orion, if you have a 256K orion forget it, Option-29 is not possible. if you do have 512K then the next step is look at your logic board {That may need to be upgraded} I charge $650 plus shipping for that upgrade. Next, you have to install a ProVoice board, I charge $300 for that, then you can feature upgrade the radio costing you another $400 In all, is the orion upgrade worth it? Not to me. You might as well sell your orion on eBay & upgrade to a M7100, since that is a current model radio. But lots of Depts out there still rather do upgrades then actual new purchases, so whatever floats your boat. FYI if your orion is upgraded to ProVoice you will lose the Aegis feature if you have it. The radio does not support both.

If anyone needs ProVoice or any other feature upgrades on any current model radios feel free to email direct for a quote. We also sell P5100s, P7100IP, 700Ps, LPE-200s, M7100IPs, Jaguar 725Ms, & P7200s
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Confirming, I've seen option 30 only on 5100s. Limited feature expansion should be correct for option 30.

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Confirming, I've seen option 30 only on 5100s. Limited feature expansion should be correct for option 30.

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I've seen it on LPE radios as well. Specifically an LPE-50 which is a limited feature/capacity version of the LPE-200.
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I mean, in the Jaguar series, I've only seen option 30 on 5100s. Never yet have I seen it
on a 700 or 7100.

I think it ALWAYS means you've got a lower tier radio. Sure sign of an LPE-50 or 5100.

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Um, so can you run aegis in simplex, or thru a conventional repeater and can you use channell gaurd?
Yes and no. You can run Aegis simplex no problem. It doesn't use CG though, you program it with a CG on receive but only to keep the radio squelched. The radio doesn't send CG with the Aegis in transmit.

Through a repeater can be done but is more difficult. To make it work well you need a Mastr 3 repeater and a GETC shelf setup for conventional digital operation. If you try a basic repeater it will have to be carrier squelched and you will probably get a lot of late entering on the receiving radios as they will have to miss a couple of frames before they can sync up the data.

Provoice can be used as simplex but if you want to repeat it will have to be through an EDACS system.
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38 is textlink?

How would that feature be programmed? I haven't seen that option in the programmer software, and that's when reading a radio that HAS that option in it. And it's not an
engineer's hacked radio, either.

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I just repaired a radio that had been run over by something large and heavy, like at least
a humvee or maybe a fire truck, and then surplussed out from a military base.

It's a 7100IP and it contains the following numbered features:

01 04 05 06
07 08 09 10
12 14 17 22
23 29 33 34
35 37 38 39

It has a menu option I've never seen before:

RWSS ...what is that?

When scanning for a trunking system, the 25 indicator is displayed.

Obviously it's set up for a real P25 trunking system.

It wasn't difficult to repair it. But only the circuit board was salvageable.
All the rest of the radio was replaced from my stock parts supply.


It is important to note that the feature list isn't the same for different models of radio. Option 30 is different for an LPE than for a 5100, for example




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RWSS Reverse Warm Start.

This control allows the radio to send a registration message to the KMF (Key Management Facility) to update the radio keys. It is used when the radio has a UKEK (User Key Encryption Key) but does not have a valid TEK (Traffic Encryption Key) or anytime the radio wants current key information from the KMF.

Applies to P7100, P7200, M7100, M7200, P5200.
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Old 10-31-2007, 12:31 PM
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M/A-Com Wireless Radio Feature List
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01 - Conventional Priority Scan
02 - 3 site scan enabled
03 - Public address allowed
04 - Group scan
05 - Priority system scan
06 - Wide area system scan
07 - Dynamic regroup
08 - EDACS emergency operation
09 - T99
10 - Conventional emergency operation
11 - RX freq preamp select
12 - AEGIS/VG TX and RX operation
13 - VGE encrypted calls
14 - DES encrypted calls
15 - VGS encrypted calls
16 - Data TX and RX calls
17 - Status/Message TX calls
18 - Test Unit operation
19 - M-RK I Second Bank operation
20 - System Model Keypad operation (MDX)
21 - EDACS Security Key
22 - Profile Operation
23 - Narrow Band Operation
24 - Auto power Operation
25 - Over-the-air channel set expansion
26 - Duplex Interconnect operation (IPE only)
27 - ProSound Junior (IPE only)
28 - Multi-Radio ProSound (MuRPS)
29 - IMBE vocoder operation (EDACS ProVoice)
30 - Limited Feature Expansion (5100, LPE)
31 - Battery ID feature
32 - FIPS-140 DSP and CRC checking
33 - P25 CAI support (APCO-25 Conventional Only)
34 - Direct frequency entry on system models
36 - Radio to radio personality cloning
35 - P25 Over-The-Air ReKeying (OTAR)
36 - Radio to radio personality cloning
37 - AES Encryption
38 - TextLink
39 - P25 Trunking




Just for convenience's sake, here's the updated version of the list.

Note: Not all feature numbers are the same for all radios.

Some features are obsolete and not available in new radios.





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