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Old 01-13-2008, 8:47 AM
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Default 34 - Direct frequency entry on system models

Does 34 - Direct frequency entry on system models mean just that? Is it the same as FPP? If so, does anyone have the cost to add this to an M7100?

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Old 01-14-2008, 9:24 AM
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Does 34 - Direct frequency entry on system models mean just that? Is it the same as FPP? If so, does anyone have the cost to add this to an M7100?

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Yes it does but it only for a single channel and only available to certain Federal customers.
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Exactly. It's really a very limited option.

Compared to the implementation of FPP that Motorola chose for the XTS5000, it's really pretty lame.

The XTS5K's FPP allows you to edit up to 128 channels, I think, and even name them, via FPP.


I'm hoping that M/A-Com will come up with a very much enhanced FPP system in the near future, and that it'll be available for older radios with FPP.

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Old 08-13-2008, 5:18 PM
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Here is the model number matrix for the P7100 series radios. Mod or admin, please place this in any appropriate location.

P7170IP System Unencrypted DES (64-Bit) AES (256-Bit)*
806-870 MHz HT7170T81X HT7170T81E HT7170T81A
450-512 MHz HT7170TU1X HT7170TU1E HT7170TU1A
378-430 MHz HT7170TN1X HT7170TN1E HT7170TN1A
136-174 MHz HT7170TH1X HT7170TH1E HT7170TH1A
P7150IP Scan Unencrypted DES (64-Bit) AES (256-Bit)*
806-870 MHz HT7150S81X HT7150S81E HT7150S81A
450-512 MHz HT7150SU1X HT7150SU1E HT7150SU1A
378-430 MHz HT7150SN1X HT7150SN1E HT7150SN1A
136-174 MHz HT7150SH1X HT7150SH1E HT7150SH1A
P7130IP Select Unencrypted DES (64-Bit) AES (256-Bit)*
806-870 MHz HT7130E81X HT7130E81E HT7130E81A
378-430 MHz HT7130EN1X HT7130EN1E HT7130EN1A
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Per the actual M/A-Com feature list:

M/A-Com Radio Feature List
01 Conventional Priority Scan
02 EDACS 3 Site System Scan
03 Public Address
04 EDACS Group Scan
05 EDACS Priority System Scan
06 EDACS ProScan/ProSound/Wide Area System Scan
07 EDACS Dynamic Regroup
08 EDACS Emergency
09 Type 99 Encode
10 Conventional Emergency
11 RX Preamp
12 AEGIS Digital Voice
13 VGE Encryption
14 DES Encryption
15 VGS Encryption - User-defined speech encryption
16 EDACS/P25 Mobile Data
17 EDACS Status/Message
18 EDACS Test Unit
19 M-RK I Second Bank
20 MDX System Model Keypad
21 EDACS Security Key (ESK) / P25 Personality Lock
22 ProFile
23 Narrow Band
24 Auto Power Control (No longer supported)
25 Over-The-Air-Freq-Set-Expansion (No longer supported)
26 Duplex Interconnect operation (No longer supported)
27 ProSound Junior (No longer supported)
28 Multi-Radio ProScan/ProSound (MuRPS)
29 ProVoice Digital Voice
30 Limited Feature Expansion (LPE-50 / P5100)
31 Smart Battery
32 FIPS 140-2
33 P25 Common Air Interface (CAI) P25 Conventional
34 Direct Frequency Entry
35 P25 Over-The-Air ReKeying (OTAR)
36 Personality Cloning
37 AES Encryption
38 TextLink
39 P25 Trunking

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Default Freq

Is there anyway to tell what freq and stuff a P7100 is by the tag under the battery. The unit has no battery and I have the number off the back which is RU 101 219 v61 Rev D. Is there anyway to tell if its a 800mhz EDACS just from that.
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V61? UHF low split, 378-430 MHz scan model. Useless as boobs on a boar.

Avoid it like the black plague itself unless it has a really killer feature package, which can be put into
another radio with a little work. And don't pay much for it! Presume that the radio is WORTHLESS
as a working radio unless you actually have a need for that .gov only bandsplit.

It's worth a little for some parts, though. Front housing, display board, maybe the frame. Knobs, controls, that's about it.

I got the cross reference from here:

FMR - Your source for Factory Reconditioned M/A-Com Radios.

I googled for it. Added macom to the search string and took out a few spaces.


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V61? UHF low split, 378-430 MHz scan model. Useless as boobs on a boar.

Avoid it like the black plague itself unless it has a really killer feature package, which can be put into
another radio with a little work. And don't pay much for it! Presume that the radio is WORTHLESS
as a working radio unless you actually have a need for that .gov only bandsplit.

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There ARE non-Federal users below 430. Certain areas of the US in proximity to Canada are permitted to use channels from 420-430 MHz as a regular public safety allocation.
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Just keep in mind that there's an ebay seller that's often selling this exact type of radio but it has no feature encryption and M/A-Com won't touch them. They're lost cargo that this unclaimed freight/surplus cargo reseller picked up and they've never been through M/A-Com's facility in Lynchburg. They're really good
only for parts unless your'e that rare user that can use a conventional only radio in that band range.
(With no valid feature encryption string, they will operate as a straight conventional radio.)

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14 -DES encrypted calls

Is it for I-Call only or any Provoice + Encrypted Channel ?

i have a couple of services in my area that use Provoice + Encryption. When i set these channel to Unencrypted in my radio i can almost hear them ... it's like voice high pitch with beep ...
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14 -DES encrypted calls

Is it for I-Call only or any Provoice + Encrypted Channel ?

i have a couple of services in my area that use Provoice + Encryption. When i set these channel to Unencrypted in my radio i can almost hear them ... it's like voice high pitch with beep ...
The point of using encryption, is that somebody not authorized to hear those secure transmissions, will not be able to do so even with a radio with similar encryption/decryption abilities because the probability of you finding the correct key in any practical matter of time is zilch. The fact that you may be attempting to do so anyway, might be a crime where you are at.

Now if you're only asking if Option 14 pertains to I-Calls only(maybe some confusion from the description "DES encrypted calls") or all call types including digital, then it would be the latter.
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Guys,

How to confront Feature Data from paper report (check) to this list List of MA/COM Radio Feature Codes - The RadioReference Wiki ? Or just understand them.

They looks like this:

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BC
0B
7A
A2
B1
FE
6D
A8
29
3C
80
74
C5
44
C4
It's from M/A-COM 700P.
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That Feature Data changes with every single radio though. Even if it is the exact same model with the exact same features, the Feature String will be different.

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How to confront Feature Data from paper report (check) to this list List of MA/COM Radio Feature Codes - The RadioReference Wiki ? Or just understand them.

They looks like this:



It's from M/A-COM 700P.
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Ok, thank you very much!
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The feature data string is an encryption key for the feature determination system in the radio's code. The ESN is the OTHER encryption key. Combined, the radio's operating code knows what features are turned on.
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Here's a more current Features List, right from Harris. Dated September 2010.
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Is it possible for a Jaguar 700P with 2meg memory to have all the features flashed to it? Just curious.
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If the LPE 200 has a 1 meg memory it can be upgraded to Pro-Voice.
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K5, yes to your first question. I haven't held a LPE200 in probably 5-6 years, but i'm pretty certain it can be upgraded to provoice too. It is simply a feature string you're editing, so in theory the size of the data wont be changed.
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FYI there's a freshly released version of the feature matrix. i'm surprised it's not here yet :-D
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