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Old 02-09-2017, 5:55 PM
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I have the above radio this radio worked great the hole time I've had it. So about 2 years ago i put it away because I wasn't using it I took batteries out before putting it away. Last week I took this radio out to use it I put new batteries in it turned it on to a FM station in area but no sound and no signal on meter. So I am wondering if anybody would know what is causing this.
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Putting in the batteries might have 'zapped' the microprocessor. Take them out for a half hour or something like that, put them back in again. See if it works. I had something like this happen to one of my radios when it had been unused for a long time, with no batteries in it.

Sometimes microprocessors glitch.

You don't mention whether any of the other bands work (MW, SW, LW, etc.), so I'm assuming the radio had no sound on any band....
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Putting in the batteries might have 'zapped' the microprocessor. Take them out for a half hour or something like that, put them back in again. See if it works. I had something like this happen to one of my radios when it had been unused for a long time, with no batteries in it.

Sometimes microprocessors glitch.

You don't mention whether any of the other bands work (MW, SW, LW, etc.), so I'm assuming the radio had no sound on any band....
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There isn't any sound on any of the bands.
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I think there might be a "reset" button on the 400. Check the sides of the radio. If there is , press it in with a pen and see if that makes a difference.
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I think there might be a "reset" button on the 400. Check the sides of the radio. If there is , press it in with a pen and see if that makes a difference.
There is a reset button I've reset it but still comes back to no audio. Everythiing functions like it should just no sound.
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Exercise the earphone jack with an earphone plug. Could be the switch contact got oxidized.

At least it's worth a try.
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Exercise the earphone jack with an earphone plug. Could be the switch contact got oxidized.

At least it's worth a try.


I've tried that already still no sound. here is a pic you can see there is no signal on meter.


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The only other 'simple' issues I can see (from looking at the schematic online) are the DX/local switch and the EXT antenna switch. If they became oxidized, it could possibly cause a problem. I'm guessing you already tried exercising them. If you haven't, it would be worth a try. My DX-440 had an issue on SW and AM because of the EXT antenna switch.
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Is the audio COMPLETELY gone, i.e. you can turn the volume all the way up and no static/noise?

If you can at least hear static it's possible the front-end IC could be dead. Some of these radios are particularly sensitive to static electric charges, sometimes all it takes is touching the whip antenna after walking across the carpet on a nice dry winter's day and poof, that's all she wrote. Some of the G-series rigs (e.g. the G3 IIRC) are notorious for that.

Not saying that that's likely the cause but it's something to consider.

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Is the audio COMPLETELY gone, i.e. you can turn the volume all the way up and no static/noise?



If you can at least hear static it's possible the front-end IC could be dead. Some of these radios are particularly sensitive to static electric charges, sometimes all it takes is touching the whip antenna after walking across the carpet on a nice dry winter's day and poof, that's all she wrote. Some of the G-series rigs (e.g. the G3 IIRC) are notorious for that.



Not saying that that's likely the cause but it's something to consider.


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There is not a sound coming out of it. This I weird too I just plugged the power cord into it. It doesn't even show it's plugged in. I also checked the power cord it shows 9 volts.
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If you tried earphones, did you listen very closely and hear any faint white noise? The YB400PE's amplifier is somewhat noisy and it's easy to detect listening on earphones in a quiet room.

So if there's no sound at all through the speaker or the earphones it sounds like the amplifier's dead. Could be anything from a broken volume control pot (oxidized/corroded traces?) to fried integrated circuit - worst case scenario, if the batteries you said you installed in the OP were factory-new the sudden inrush might have nuked it. Probably not, but it's possible.

But that's the audio output section, doesn't explain why it's not detecting an RF signal.
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Audio pots can be old or noisy. If they disconnect, you wouldn't get much audio. Try working the volume control back and for a bit and see if you can hear any crackling. If you do, then the problem is the volume control. If you hear nothing, look at the headphone jack. It is supposed to disconnect the speaker so that it can feed through the headphones. But if your headphone jack is dirty you might not get much in either the speaker or the headphones. Try working a plug in and out of that jack a few times, maybe even spray some contact cleaner on that plug.

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Thank for the reply
I've tried all that there is zero noise from speaker or head phone jack. The more I look at this radio is weird I think something is shorting out inside. Because there no direct entry in the 80&90 meter bands. And also I put new batteries in this morning and they are dead now and the radio hasn't been on today.


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I know this is stupid, but I have to ask: Are you certain the batteries are inserted with the correct polarity? Check it, Double Check it and Triple check it.

It's an easy mistake to make. I know. I have owned a YB-400 for more than 20 years and I've made that mistake myself.
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I know this is stupid, but I have to ask: Are you certain the batteries are inserted with the correct polarity? Check it, Double Check it and Triple check it.

It's an easy mistake to make. I know. I have owned a YB-400 for more than 20 years and I've made that mistake myself.


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Not a stupid question, I already check the batteries over and over they are in the right way. If they were in wrong it won't turn on.


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And also I put new batteries in this morning and they are dead now and the radio hasn't been on today.
Now that's scary. Possibly and electrolytic capacitor across the batteries has shorted or leaked. Can you get the back off and have a look for a round metal topped thing, there will be more than one, and find one that has bulged or leaked brown stuff over the board?
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^^^^^^^ What he said. And look for anything awry near the battery terminal and the FM / whip antenna input, i.e. rust, bad looking solder connection, etc.
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Yes I will do all of above today to check it out. Will come back with status
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