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Old 04-28-2017, 7:40 PM
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Default MW DXing- what's the best receiver?

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I'm interested in MW dxing and am looking for the best portable receiver available. Looking for sensitivity and selectivity. I have a GE super radio lll but it's crap from the start. I don't want to break the bank but don't want a cheapie either. Outdoor antenna is not an issue. I live in northwest Ohio in a rural area.
Please reply with your opinions and any questions you may have in helping me decide on which radio to purchase.

Thanks in advance, I'm sure I'll have more questions!
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Moved from the propagation thread since it didn't address that topic...

I had always heard that the GE Superradios were terrific MW DX machines (tho not without their flaws); Let's start the discussion....

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What do you think of the cc radio-ep?
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I think you'll find that there's a pretty wide variation on how folks define sensitivity and selectivity; this is particularly so with MW DXing, where the quality (and whether it can rotate) of the loop antenna inside the radio itself plays as much of a role in both departments...however we have a number of sites from our wiki that have reviews of portables...

Reviews | The SWLing Post

Portable | Shortwave Radio Index

eHam.net Reviews - Receivers: General Coverage

Medium Wave Circle - Receiver Shopping List - Receiver Reviews from Radio Netherlands and MW Circle

And there are some portables reviewed here...

Dave's Radio Receiver Page - N9EWO - Shortwave Radio

Grab a long cold tall one and start reading (heh)...Mike
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Don't own it, sorry. Let's see what others have to say

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Like most radios on any frequency, the biggest benefit can be had from getting the best antenna. If possible, you can get better performance by disconnecting the internal ferrite rod antenna and replacing it with an external tuned loop or a longer ferrite - you can either tune it with the existing tuning capacitor or using an external one to tune the loop/ferrite - you will alleviate any tracking errors by doing that.

The big question is local noise a factor? If you can get out into the country you'll be surprised at the improvement in signal over noise. BUT I did try an experiment some time ago with a Kenwood R2000 comms receiver running off my car battery and a spool of telephone wire laid out across a farmers paddock. Expecting great things later on in the evening I was somewhat disappointed by the racket generated by what sounded like hundreds of electric fences!
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CCRadio-EP is an excellent AM Broadcast band DX machine. Easily the best of all my portable radios when it comes to MW DX. The GE Superadio III has somewhat better audio but the tuning scale is compressed on the top end of the band and tuning is touchy there. The Crane radio scale is more linear and tuning is smooth. It has a fine tuning control that is helpful in some cases when it comes to separating co-channel interference or peaking a weak station. There is provision for external antenna connection but performance is good even without an external antenna.

As you get more into DXing the AM broadcast band you will want to experiment with various antennas but right out of the box the CCRadio-EP is a winner.
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Get a loop for your GE Superadio III. Unless it tunes weirdly, i.e. "skips" or won't hold tune in the lower ranges (i.e. the tuner is defective, and you would know that right away), it should work better than most AM radios and definitely will DX with an external loop, which should only cost you $30. I've bought two GESRIII's and both are excellent, although there were some I've read about that weren't as good. Still, you're dealing with a TRF radio with a 200mm loopstick, if the SRIII tunes well you could probably match most other radios you'd buy if you just get an external loop (like an AN200).

Other radios I'd suggest would be the Sangean PR-D5 or a PR-D15 (both usually less than $100). DSP IF chip, twin coil loopstick, cheaper than a CCrane. I've read that the PR-D6, an analog Sangean, around $35 or so, is also very good for the money.

Or get a CCrane. I've read very good reviews both about their digitally tuned CCRadio and the one that's analog tuned (can't remember the model number, may be the EP?). I've read they have very good customer support. The only downside is their radios are a little bit pricey, but if you're into DXing, it could be worth it.

PS, an indoor external tuned loop set next to the radio (even homebuilt) will be a better choice than an outdoor antenna on MW.
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Other radios I'd suggest would be the Sangean PR-D5 or a PR-D15 (both usually less than $100). DSP IF chip, twin coil loopstick, cheaper than a CCrane. I've read that the PR-D6, an analog Sangean, around $35 or so, is also very good for the money.

Or get a CCrane. I've read very good reviews both about their digitally tuned CCRadio and the one that's analog tuned (can't remember the model number, may be the EP?). I've read they have very good customer support. The only downside is their radios are a little bit pricey, but if you're into DXing, it could be worth it.
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I'm not OP, but I've been trying to shop around for a good MW receiver. I had been considering the CCRadio-2E, but I have an uneasy feeling that most/all of CCrane's radios are rebranded Tecsun radios, possibly with some tweaks. For instance, CCrane's Skywave seems to be an engineering update to my "Grundig" G6 Buzz Aldrin edition.

Back in the 1990s, Crane did something shady to my grad school department when ordering a BC-895XLT, the sort of thing that makes me thing they're a little dishonest.
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Thank you for all of your opinions, you have been very helpful.
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I'm not OP, but I've been trying to shop around for a good MW receiver. I had been considering the CCRadio-2E, but I have an uneasy feeling that most/all of CCrane's radios are rebranded Tecsun radios, possibly with some tweaks. For instance, CCrane's Skywave seems to be an engineering update to my "Grundig" G6 Buzz Aldrin edition.

Back in the 1990s, Crane did something shady to my grad school department when ordering a BC-895XLT, the sort of thing that makes me thing they're a little dishonest.
I've read that many of the CCrane MW radios (the CCradios especially) are made by Sangean.

The digitally tuned one (the big CCradio2E, not the little SW "Skywave" model with all the buttons covering the front) looks like it operates like a PR-D5 (tuning knob + five memory presets per band, DSP chip with twin coil 200mm antenna) with extra functions. I've read it is made by Sangean. I'm not sure about the CCradioEP, but I think I read it was made by Sangean also -- but I could be wrong....

I've never had one, just didn't want to pay $160 for a radio when I could get a PR-D5 for $65 or $70.

But I've heard they work well. At least they care enough to make radios for MW DXers.

After looking over their website, that analog tuned CCRadioEP looks like a good radio. Twin coil ferrite, stereo FM through headphones, and I've read it's a very good MW performer. The tone controls are obviously handy, and it's more affordably priced than the digitally tuned one...

PS, you're right about the Skywave, I think I read that it is made by Tecsun.

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