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Old 05-25-2017, 4:43 PM
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I have a bunch of RITRON DTX-450 modules I need to program for a GMRS repeater project. It is a one time deal so I intend to cobble up the 3.5 mm programming plug and wire to a Motorola RIB box. The problem is that the documentation is unavailable to determine which of the tip, ring or sleeve are for TX and RX data. I am assuming the sleeve is data ground. The only schematics I can find are for a cable that terminates in an RJ plug for use with RITRON's proprietary RIB, and the data labels are missing. I am using a Motorola RIB, so any help would be appreciated.

I assume the same cable is used for Jobcomm and Patriot radios.

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Ritron uses a I wire interface for programming

found this using google (second hit)

http://www.repeater-builder.com/ritr...450-manual.pdf

I expect that the Motorola RIB box will not be helpful

I assume you have the Ritron programming sw.....

from their site.....

http://www.ritron.com/tech/Model_Index.pdf

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Do you suppose either of these options will work:

I have a programming cable, USB to one wire for my Icom W32a.

I have an Icom RS232 to CIV adaptor which is also one wire.

But,,,

I have the following software:

DTX-450 RPT-PCPS-3.0.20

But just realized it is installed in my DOS only machine, so the USB, won't work. Was there a Windows version of this old Ritron software?


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1) USB cable probably won't work, the signal levels at the Ritron port eare probably different

2) Talk to Ritron about WInXP/VISTA/7/10 software, unfortunately, it's single sourced

3) The Ritron SW comes as a kit with all cable needed (factory). They may be willing to sell just cable set, again, contact them

4) We have used Ritron SW on pc's up to Win98 with no problems, not sure about WINXP and later

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Logic levels have to match. A cable designed for a radio running 5v internally will probably not work with a radio with 3.3v internal.....
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The Icom stuff uses 5 V TTL so that end should be OK. I will try running the Ritron SW I have in WinXp compatability mode. Hopefully it will see the Icom cable USB as a proper COM port.

I have so much legacy radio stuff that I need to keep too much legacy PC.

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Per the manual I referenced, the Ritron uses 9.5v internally, Your ICOM cable may not work. Also, so cables invert the logic, some do not.

I will almost guarantee that the Ritron SW, if true DOS, will not see the USB port......

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The Data from the programming lead is on the ring part of the plug, speaker is on the tip, GND on the sleeve. Just like other Ritron pgm cables. Five volt logic.
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The Data from the programming lead is on the ring part of the plug, speaker is on the tip, GND on the sleeve. Just like other Ritron pgm cables. Five volt logic.
Thanks; I see that it meets IC101 at pin 52 Serial Data out from a line labeled TX/Busy. That is the part that confuses me because the TX implies that the data RX is somewhere else.I see Pin 50 Serial Data In appears to be connected to pin 52 so I guess it is a one lane road. IC101 appears to be operating at 5V TTL levels.

I have a USB-29A Cable from RT Systems that is for my Icom W32A. It has a fancy driver that replicates a COM port. The RITRON software works in WINxp as far as I can tell. The F1-F10 keys don't work, but a mouse click activates them.



So my next effort is to wire things up and see if I can get these modules to read and write.

Has anyone a clue the baud rate of this program?

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