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Old 03-22-2018, 10:36 AM
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I am sure Yaesu is not happy about this .
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I'm sure they are not. One of the issues with production in China. No rules.



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Like was said earlier , i think it is more about the big 3 loseing sales .
I do think that's part of it.

No matter what their reasoning, the cheap Chinese radios are an issue. Getting the FCC to crack down on these companies would be welcome. FCC needs to enforce it's own rules.
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No matter what their reasoning, the cheap Chinese radios are an issue. Getting the FCC to crack down on these companies would be welcome. FCC needs to enforce it's own rules.
Probably too late. Anyway, they don't have the money to do any real enforcement. They'd have to put together a posse. I'd volunteer,
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I am sure Yaesu is not happy about this . Like was said earlier , i think it is more about the big 3 loseing sales .

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CE-FCC-800-....c100507.m3226
Look up the FCC certification for the radio if there is one. You will be lucky to find it is for Part 15 or some bogus "Part 9". The Chinese are exploiting the fact that the FCC is doing a poor job of reviewing these certifications and US customs is doing a poor job at the port. At best the radio will be listed as a "scanning reciever". It is a ham radio, a poor one at that.

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Following up on the original post.

The Land Mobile Communications Council (LMCC) asked FCC Commissioner Michael O’Rielly to help eliminate the sale of noncompliant radio devices distributed by eBay and Amazon.com.
https://www.rrmediagroup.com/News/Ne...s/NewsID/16976
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The Land Mobile Communications Council (LMCC) asked FCC Commissioner Michael O’Rielly to help eliminate the sale of noncompliant radio devices distributed by eBay and Amazon.com.
https://www.rrmediagroup.com/News/Ne...s/NewsID/16976
While it will have the desired effect to stem the sales of CCR's, 90% of the radio equipment sold on e-bay is nonconforming in some other way and e-bay lacks the knowledge or incentive to weed out good from bad. For example all of the surplus equipment destined for ham radio use. Will e-bay ban a signal generator or RF power amplifier being sold for laboratory use? What about surplus WWII military radios? The correct way to do this would be to require entry of an FCC type certification number on the equipment description and to set a flag if sales are otherwise for Part 15 or Ham radio use.

Amazon is a worse problem. They are actually facilitating the marketing of this stuff through their automated website.

The FCC and US Customs need to be more vigilante on cracking down on the importers. It would not be hard to simply go after the current companies selling this junk and shut them down with a huge fine.
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While it will have the desired effect to stem the sales of CCR's, 90% of the radio equipment sold on e-bay is nonconforming in some other way and e-bay lacks the knowledge or incentive to weed out good from bad. For example all of the surplus equipment destined for ham radio use. Will e-bay ban a signal generator or RF power amplifier being sold for laboratory use? What about surplus WWII military radios? The correct way to do this would be to require entry of an FCC type certification number on the equipment description and to set a flag if sales are otherwise for Part 15 or Ham radio use.

Amazon is a worse problem. They are actually facilitating the marketing of this stuff through their automated website.

The FCC and US Customs need to be more vigilante on cracking down on the importers. It would not be hard to simply go after the current companies selling this junk and shut them down with a huge fine.
Virtually everything you say is true. Let's start with the POS CCRs, which will be an uphill battle by itself, and then move on to the other stuff.
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