Most today seem to come from Malaysia, Mexico, & a few from the USA. The rumor circulating around ham fests is they are made in Malaysia, & shipped to Moto in Chicago where "tags" are applied. It seems large quantities of these radios fall out the back door at the Malaysia plant, & never make it to Chicago, so no tags. While they are not missing from a hook, & ladder in NYC, or Chicago, they are still missing. As for no tags, but good serial #, I can only imagine someone is entering legit sounding serial numbers to the radio using Depot. But somewhere out there will be another radio that legitimately has the serial # in the "no tag radio". Imagine if the real one got stolen, & your radio has the same ser #, & the cops are running it . OOPS. But legit tagged 8000's are at $8000, & no tag ones are $3000-$4500.