LV Metro New Sites

[radioprescott]

Took a trip to BHC today, found and submitted these new sites for LV Metro system:

Laughlin – 2900 S CASINO DR
35-08-45.0 N, 114-34-46.0 W
site 0022
772.85625 cc
773.18125
773.66875
773.98125 ADMIN
774.39375
774.73125


Oatman AZ - GOLD ROAD CREST
35-02-07.5 N, 114-22-13.3 W
site 0023
769.50625 cc
770.60625
771.33125
772.15625

Active TG - 10010 LVMPD Admin with local LE traffic T2 clear traffic, no enc

 

[montana1975]

they switch between records and admin , depending on time of day and day

 

[skykid702]

So, with the new switch over.....We can only listen to Admin or Records? All other TG in Patrol are a no go?

 

[bryan_herbert]

Exactly.

You can also listen to Animal Control and the Las Vegas Detention Center

 

[skykid702]

Well...that sucks!

 

[BillH1]

Sorry to bump a sorta old thread, but does LV metro use the records and admin channel primarily in Laughlin, or do they use one of the area command TGs? I was also wondering if Admin and Records are still un-encrypted.

 

[bryan_herbert]

Admin and Records are now encrypted on the TRS. Admin on VHF is still clear.

 

[BillH1]

Admin and Records are now encrypted on the TRS. Admin on VHF is still clear.

Yep, I figured that out today. I took a trip to Laughlin and everything was encrypted. This sucks, I got a digital scanner for when I go to Vegas, and surrounding areas, then shortly after it got here the rumors started circulating online about Metro going encrypted. I had 158.790, and 158.850 programmed in with the TRS and didn't hear anything on those frequencies. They may have taken those down in the Laughlin area. Oh well, at least I can still listen to Fire, and other PD's around Vegas... I'm just wondering how Mohave County law enforcement, primarily Bullhead PD, and MCSO would be able to interop if needed, unless they used one of the VAIRS channels for mutual aid, or they have a frequency set aside.

 

[Hooligan]

Yep, I figured that out today. I took a trip to Laughlin and everything was encrypted. This sucks, I got a digital scanner for when I go to Vegas, and surrounding areas, then shortly after it got here the rumors started circulating online about Metro going encrypted. I had 158.790, and 158.850 programmed in with the TRS and didn't hear anything on those frequencies. They may have taken those down in the Laughlin area.

It's ironic, amusing & perhaps evidence of some incompetence that just within the past couple weeks, LVMPD updated the license in-question:

ULS License - Industrial/Business Pool, Conventional License - WRBP213 - Go Wireless Inc


Seems like *EVERYTHING* on the LVMPD 700MHz P-25/II system went encrypted about a month or so ago. A non radio-geek friend was at a (county commission?) meeting on 22 May where it was mentioned that LVMPD (sic) got a federal grant (about $50,000, from https://www.bja.gov/jag/index.html ) to encrypt Clark County Animal Control radios. He made it sound like the grant was just awarded or received on 22 May, but CC Animal Control went full-time AES back in April or early May...

 

[BillH1]

It's ironic, amusing & perhaps evidence of some incompetence that just within the past couple weeks, LVMPD updated the license in-question:

ULS License - Industrial/Business Pool, Conventional License - WRBP213 - Go Wireless Inc


Seems like *EVERYTHING* on the LVMPD 700MHz P-25/II system went encrypted about a month or so ago. A non radio-geek friend was at a (county commission?) meeting on 22 May where it was mentioned that LVMPD (sic) got a federal grant (about $50,000, from https://www.bja.gov/jag/index.html ) to encrypt Clark County Animal Control radios. He made it sound like the grant was just awarded or received on 22 May, but CC Animal Control went full-time AES back in April or early May...

Interesting... Why would they get a grant to encrypt animal control radios of all things?

 

[mule1075]

Interesting... Why would they get a grant to encrypt animal control radios of all things?

Because they can.

 

[BillH1]

Because they can.

Well obviously they can because they did. It just seems like animal control would be the least likely to be awarded a grant for encryption when there are more important things that grants could go towards, in my opinion.

 

[SuperUser]

It's ironic, amusing & perhaps evidence of some incompetence that just within the past couple weeks, LVMPD updated the license in-question:

ULS License - Industrial/Business Pool, Conventional License - WRBP213 - Go Wireless Inc


Seems like *EVERYTHING* on the LVMPD 700MHz P-25/II system went encrypted about a month or so ago. A non radio-geek friend was at a (county commission?) meeting on 22 May where it was mentioned that LVMPD (sic) got a federal grant (about $50,000, from https://www.bja.gov/jag/index.html ) to encrypt Clark County Animal Control radios. He made it sound like the grant was just awarded or received on 22 May, but CC Animal Control went full-time AES back in April or early May...

Im confused....what does that industrial conventional license have to do with LVMPD?

Also, IIRC, Animal Control is part of clark county, not LVMPD. Although they are on LVMPD’s radio system, clark county has their own radio technicians and their decisions are part of the county, not LVMPD.

 

[bryan_herbert]

We have two animal control offices -- city and county

City of Las Vegas Animal Control is on LVMPD and is now encrypted

Clark County Animal Control is on SNACC and is in the clear

 

[SuperUser]

We have two animal control offices -- city and county

City of Las Vegas Animal Control is on LVMPD and is now encrypted

Clark County Animal Control is on SNACC and is in the clear

I thought it was the other way around?

but anyway, LVMPD does not make decisions for either of them. Hooligan was implying that LVMPD decided to encrypt their radios and went out to get funding for animal control to do so.

 

[bryan_herbert]

Whats more confusing is why does the City Marshals also dispatch animal control and whats the difference between them and the animal control dispatch on LVMPDs system?

 

[Hooligan]

Im confused....what does that industrial conventional license have to do with LVMPD?

Good find! My cut & paste meant to paste this one:

ULS License - Public Safety Pool, Conventional License - KXG815 - LAS VEGAS METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT

Which shows LVMPD updated that license on 18 May 2018.

 

[Hooligan]

I thought it was the other way around?

but anyway, LVMPD does not make decisions for either of them. Hooligan was implying that LVMPD decided to encrypt their radios and went out to get funding for animal control to do so.

I can think of six animal control agencies in Clark County.

Clark County Animal Control is on the 700MHZ P-25/II System, LV Animal Control (which is part of the City of Las Vegas Dept of Public Safety/Dept of Detention & Enforcement, as are the LV Marshals), is on SNACC. Henderson, Mesquite, Boulder City, & North Las Vegas Animal Control agencies are all a division of their respective PDs, and I assume utilize SNACC (HPD 'Paul' units are Animal Control), though I know most animal control dispatches are done via mobile data computer.

Kinda silly to think I was implying that LVMPD decided to encrypt CC Animal Control & that LVMPD obtained the grant to do it. I very clearly qualified the info that I was given:
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"A non radio-geek friend was at a (county commission?) meeting on 22 May where it was mentioned that LVMPD (sic) got a federal grant (about $50,000, from https://www.bja.gov/jag/index.html ) to encrypt Clark County Animal Control radios. He made it sound like the grant was just awarded or received on 22 May, but CC Animal Control went full-time AES back in April or early May..."
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However, I am happy to infer my belief that LVMPD controls their 700MHz P-25/II system very tightly, so any Clark County radio tech "decisions" regarding CC users on the 700 system are approved by the system owner, which per licensing, is LVMPD, not CC or some municipal consortium.

Eventually, we'll see details for that grant.

As to why CC Animal Control would get a grant for encryption.

1. There's grant $$ available for such things.
2. Someone applied for it.
3. There's a good amount of semi-organized crime-related animal abuse taking place -- cockfighting specifically, to which the LVMPD Animal Cruelty Unit relies on support from Animal Control, as-well as Animal Control itself occasionally doing some sensitive investigations where communications security will enhance operational security.

 

[SuperUser]

Good find! My cut & paste meant to paste this one:

ULS License - Public Safety Pool, Conventional License - KXG815 - LAS VEGAS METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT

Which shows LVMPD updated that license on 18 May 2018.

Do you know what changed? The only change I can find is the contact info?

 

[BillH1]

Good find! My cut & paste meant to paste this one:

ULS License - Public Safety Pool, Conventional License - KXG815 - LAS VEGAS METROPOLITAN POLICE DEPARTMENT

Which shows LVMPD updated that license on 18 May 2018.

Interesting. Maybe the repeater is down for a while for one reason or another. I have not heard anything on that frequency for weeks. It used to be very active, then all of a sudden I am not hearing anything on that frequency, even when I was in Bullhead/Laughlin over the weekend. I'll keep listening to see if I hear anything on this frequency. The emissions is still listed as 11K0F3E which is analog so I assume that this frequency will remain unencrypted???