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Old 12-06-2018, 5:18 AM
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Default Middlesex, Essex, Bergen County fire questions

Hi, I was wondering if someone could give me the low-down on how these counties handle fire comms. I am planning on buffing North Jersey and want to make sense of the jumble. I'm used to my area where a county has 1 trunked system and everyone operates on it. I have several scanners all programmed with all the trunked systems and conventional channels, I'd just like to lock out what we know won't be used. So the question is, for everyday fire activity, do all these conventional channels and municipal trunked systems really get used? Any townships use their systems for backup? Any help would be appreciated.
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Old 12-06-2018, 7:59 AM
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In Bergen County there is no common trunked system being used for fire communications.

There are a few shared dispatch centers (the County itself operates one of them), but the majority of fire dispatch and fireground communications is handled on the municipal level.

Shared frequencies do exist in some areas, but often unique CTCSS/DCS tones are being deployed.

In short, it's quite a mumbo jumbo.

The RR Database is very accurate; check it before you arrive.
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I gotta imagine each fire truck has to have like 6 different radios for all this stuff. What a mess. Ok I have it all crammed in the scanners so I'll try to do my best to sift through it all. Fortunately my focus will be the county I am in and the immediate surrounding counties just in case. Thinking Newark and Jersey City are good places to buff...
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In Essex County most municipalities use their own fire dispatch frequency for most communications. Newark, Bloomfield and Belleville use the NJICS state system for fire comms. You will definitely want to program the Essex County Mutual Aid frequency (470.5125). Whenever there is a large incident you will hear about it on here when mutual aid is called in.
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In Bergen County there is no common trunked system being used for fire communications.

There are a few shared dispatch centers (the County itself operates one of them), but the majority of fire dispatch and fireground communications is handled on the municipal level.

Shared frequencies do exist in some areas, but often unique CTCSS/DCS tones are being deployed.

In short, it's quite a mumbo jumbo.

The RR Database is very accurate; check it before you arrive.
Which means to cover just the Fire departments in Bergen takes at least 30+ freq's -
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In Essex County most municipalities use their own fire dispatch frequency for most communications. Newark, Bloomfield and Belleville use the NJICS state system for fire comms. You will definitely want to program the Essex County Mutual Aid frequency (470.5125). Whenever there is a large incident you will hear about it on here when mutual aid is called in.
ansky thank you for that!!!! Now I have a question if Belleville,Newark Fire now use the interop system and that mutual aid frequency is analog how do these agencies hear both? Two radios or a radio that is capable of analog and digital? Thank you man if I donít have that frequency in I need to put it in.
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ansky thank you for that!!!! Now I have a question if Belleville,Newark Fire now use the interop system and that mutual aid frequency is analog how do these agencies hear both? Two radios or a radio that is capable of analog and digital? Thank you man if I donít have that frequency in I need to put it in.
The Essex County mutual aid channel (470.5125) is only used for the county dispatcher to contact individual towns to request mutual aid coverage. So basically it's just a way for the dispatchers between towns to talk to each other. I have never heard individual fire units using this channel at a fire scene.
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In Bergen County at a fire, you can have 3 or 4 different channels being used on different band. It's a mess.

In Jersey City, the FD is dispatched on the TRS system, EMS calls and still alarms all on TRS. Most of the fires with be on their analog UHF channels. 460-5500 FG 2 and 460-6000 FG 3.

It's easier to listen to the fire buffs, when there is a fire the'll put it over the radio. Then you can listen to that FD's channel.
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