New Update

[Soundman]

What is the deal with the new update ? Before you could lison to Charlotte Police North or you could lison to Charlotte Police South or Central . Davidson does not have there own dispatch .Huntersville conf should be with Charlottle north end .You are missing Cornelius main dispatch .I did not spend over $1000.00 on scanner to have this all screwed up . I would like to put in a zip code and have thing work right .

 

[trumpetman]

Everything is still there, it just looks like the talkgroups have been reorganized and GPS info updated. I've reached out to the admin who has shuffled stuff around to see if we can figure out how to break things apart again. All the talkgroups are still in the database, just search the page for the actual TGID and see what they're located under. At first glance I see NM DISP 1 "NM LAW 1" is still there, along with HPD CONF, CMPD NORTH, etc.

 

[Soundman]

Yes now I do see that . But why is everything else is in one bundle . All my scanner are screwed up. I have a homepatrol a bcd 436hp and a bcd 536hp .Thy were fine till this update . I was able to lison to everything fine .

 

[PJH]

So here is the deal.

The backend of that system was in disarray. None of the talkgroups were deleted, except for duplicate ones that were in there (there may be one or two that needs to be addressed).

Several of them had very vauge descriptions of what/where they actually belonged to.

Our standards for database structure was used to revamp and reorganize USAI.

Prior to it, most talkgroups were centered in Charlotte. This means if you used GPS/DB aware products, you wouldn't be scanning the adjacent counties or agencies - unless you were in metro Charlotte.

We also do not normally separate out (in the case of CMPD) patrol areas for police departments or fire departments, etc. They are in there as an *agency*. We can and do (depending on size) separate out the agency from a city listing to cut down the large volume of data that is under one category - which CMPD is presently setup as. So instead of 8+? categories for CMPD, its all together. If any talkgroups are added by the system in the future, they will be automatically be ranged by that agencies GPS range without any backend work or discrepancies cropping up.

As noted in the database heading:

"The Charlotte UASI (Urban Areas Security Initiative) trunked system covers multiple counties centered around Charlotte. The database is structured for system wide emergency services talkgroups at the top, followed by counties and cities in alphabetical order. Towns located within a county are listed after the county level services/departments "

If you are having issues montoring, you may want to check your range setting, or use county or GPS selection crietera.

Prior to the update, none of the counties were linked to the catagories. This may have you on uniden products scanning "Everything" - which is improper in the backend.

Otherwise, no data was deleted. Typically with Uniden its a range selection issue than a database issue.

 

[Soundman]

I don't use GPS .Before there was this new update everything was fine . The police were just fine the way there were .I was able to lison to CMPD North and all there stuff . Then I could lison to Cmpd South with no problem and all there stuff . But now I can here is cmpd south and cmpd north and then conf central and then .It is a mess . Everything else is fine .Medic is fine .CFD is fine .But CMPD is screwed up .All I am asking. Could you please fix the cmpd section .

 

[northzone]

Why don't you put a little effort into it. Copy the program to a favorite list, then set-up the talkgroups exactly like you want them. Simple and takes very little time to do.

 

[PJH]

I don't use GPS .Before there was this new update everything was fine . The police were just fine the way there were .I was able to lison to CMPD North and all there stuff . Then I could lison to Cmpd South with no problem and all there stuff . But now I can here is cmpd south and cmpd north and then conf central and then .It is a mess . Everything else is fine .Medic is fine .CFD is fine .But CMPD is screwed up .All I am asking. Could you please fix the cmpd section .

That makes no sense, actually.

All the CMPD talkgroups are in the same category which has the same range. If you can hear one TG, you can hear them all. We cannot set up individual TG with different areas. Doesn’t work that way.

Go in and check you service types, range and zip code

 

[Soundman]

{Charlotte Police Central}
CMPD Cntrl Disp
Central Central Dispatch*
Law Dispatch*
CMPD Cntrl Conf
Central Division Conference*
CMPD Cntrl Tac
Central Division Tactical*
CMPD Cntrl SCU
Central Division Street Crimes Unit

{Charlotte Police North}
CMPD Cntrl Disp*
Law Dispatch*
CMPD Cntrl Conf
Central Division Conference*
CMPD Cntrl Tac
Central Division Tactical*
CMPD Cntrl SCU
Central Division Street Crime

You don't have them in talkgroups.

 

[PJH]

???

 

[PJH]

Soundman...

This is the current CMPD listing. Obviously my screen size cuts some of it off. Its all under that Charlotte-Mecklenburg Police category.

Also attached is the detail of that category. If you using the zip code function, GPS, manual lat/long or however your telling your scanner where you are and what to scan - and it falls or overlaps its range into the circle that you see - the scanner will (should) scan every talkgroup in that category.

 

[PJH]

Anything with an "E" in the mode field, are encrypted. Uniden scanners will not import full time encrypted talkgroups by design, since they are encrypted and you cannot hear them anyways.

 

[Soundman]

Yes sir I see that . Before this update . The cmpd talkgroup.
There was a talk grop for
North Cmpd
Central Cmpd
South Cmpd
Hickery Cmpd
Metro Cmpd
Univ Cmpd
Provi Cmpd
North Troyn
and so on but now I here everything . I can"t just lison to one talkgroup anymore . It a mess.

 

[kg4pbd]

Yes sir I see that . Before this update . The cmpd talkgroup.
There was a talk grop for
North Cmpd
Central Cmpd
South Cmpd
Hickery Cmpd
Metro Cmpd
Univ Cmpd
Provi Cmpd
North Troyn
and so on but now I here everything . I can just lison to one talkgroup anymore . It a mess.

Soundman - What everyone is trying to tell you is that all the same talkgroups are still there. It's just that now all the CMPD division talkgroups are grouped under one department, CMPD. Prior to the update they were set up so each division appeared as a department.

You can still listen to one talkgroup, or group of talkgroups if you prefer, simply create your own favorites list. The division talkgroups don't typically change, so you don't need the weekly updates for this system.

 

[PJH]

Scott is correct. I’m addition, what you are referring to as talkgroups are not talkgroups. It is simply a database category. There is no relationship between the two for scanning CMPD in terms of radio traffic.

If you don’t want to hear talkgroups from other CMPD areas, then you can simply use the AVOID function of the scanner and you will not hear it.

In addition, the previous “divisions” had about the same range. None of the talkgroups changed.

So let’s start with some basic stuff.

As also previously stated, use your scanner software and create a list of just what you want to hear. That’s what it’s designed for.

Where is the scanner located? What town/city, etc.

 

[JRush311]

lmao all those talk groups are there bro



659 293 D CMPD Cntrl Disp Central Central Dispatch Law Dispatch
657 291 D CMPD Cntrl Conf Central Division Conference Law Talk
815 32f DE CMPD Cntrl Tac Central Division Tactical Law Tac
669 29d D CMPD Cntrl SCU Central Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
559 22f D CMPD East Disp Eastway Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
563 233 D CMPD East Conf Eastway Division Conference Law Talk
823 337 DE CMPD East Tac Eastway Division Tactical Law Tac
825 339 D CMPD East SCU Eastway Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
533 215 D CMPD Fredm Disp Freedom Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
539 21b D CMPD Fredm Conf Freedom Division Conference Law Talk
853 355 DE CMPD Fredm Tac Freedom Division Tactical Law Tac
855 357 D CMPD Fredm SCU Freedom Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
561 231 D CMPD HickGr Disp Hickory Grove Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
565 235 D CMPD HickGr Conf Hickory Grove Division Conference Law Talk
831 33f DE CMPD HickGr Tac Hickory Grove Division Tactical Law Tac
833 341 D CMPD HickGr SCU Hickory Grove Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
547 223 D CMPD Indpce Disp Independence Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
551 227 D CMPD Indpce Conf Independence Division Conference Law Talk
837 345 DE CMPD Indpce Tac Independence Division Tactical Law Tac
839 347 D CMPD Indpce SCU Independence Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
661 295 D CMPD Metro Disp Metro Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
665 299 D CMPD Metro Conf Metro Division Conference Law Talk
819 333 DE CMPD Metro Tac Metro Division Tactical Law Tac
821 335 D CMPD Metro SCU Metro Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
557 22d D CMPD North Disp North Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
555 22b D CMPD North Conf North Division Conference Law Talk
567 237 DE CMPD North Tac North Division Tactical Law Tac
829 33d D CMPD North SCU North Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
663 297 D CMPD NTryon DIsp North Tryon Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
667 29b D CMPD NTryon Conf North Tryon Division Conference Law Talk
817 331 DE CMPD NTryon Tac North Tryon Division Tactical Law Tac
827 33b D CMPD NTryon SCU North Tryon Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
543 21f D CMPD Provdn Disp Providence Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
541 21d D CMPD Provdn Conf Providence Division Conference Law Talk
553 229 DE CMPD Provdn Tac Providence Division Tactical Law Tac
835 343 D CMPD Provdn SCU Providence Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
545 221 D CMPD South Disp South Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
549 225 D CMPD South Conf South Division Conference Law Talk
845 34d DE CMPD South Tac South Division Tactical Law Tac
847 34f D CMPD South SCU South Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
687 2af D CMPD Univ Disp University Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
685 2ad D CMPD Univ Conf University Division Conference Law Talk
693 2b5 DE CMPD Univ Tac University Division Tactical Law Tac
697 2b9 D CMPD Univ SCU University Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
531 213 D CMPD Westvr Disp Westover Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
535 217 D CMPD Westvr Conf Westover Division Conference Law Talk
849 351 DE CMPD Westvr Tac Westover Division Tactical Law Tac
851 353 D CMPD Westvr SCU Westover Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
529 211 D CMPD StlCrk Disp Steele Creek Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
527 20f D CMPD StlCrk Conf Steele Creek Division Conference Law Talk
841 349 DE CMPD StlCrk Tac Steele Creek Division Tactical Law Tac
843 34b D CMPD StlCrk SCU Steele Creek Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
583 247 DE CMPD SWAT 1 SWAT 1 Law Tac
585 249 DE CMPD SWAT 2 SWAT 2 Law Tac
587 24b DE CMPD SWAT 3 SWAT 3 Law Tac
675 2a3 DE CMPD VCAT 1 VCAT 1 Law Tac
677 2a5 DE CMPD VCAT 2 VCAT 2 Law Tac
681 2a9 DE CMPD VCAT3 VCAT 3 Law Tac
1273 4f9 DE CMPD BOMB 1 Bomb Squad 1 Law Tac
30541 774d DE CMPD BOMB 2 Bomb Squad 2 Law Tac
1779 6f3 D CMPD ACO Disp Animal Control Dispatch Law Dispatch
1781 6f5 D CMPD ACO Conf Animal Control Conference Law Talk

 

[Soundman]

Sorry my bad kg4pbd you are right . That what I was trying to say . That the way it should be set up as departments . I don't think I have to make a favorites list to have it that way. I got those scanner so I did not have to do all this crap anymore .

 

[Soundman]

CMPD Central Department

CMPD Central Central Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD Central Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD Central Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD SCU Central Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD East Department

CMPD East Disp Eastway Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD East Conf Eastway Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD East Tac Eastway Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD East SCU Eastway Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD Freedom Department

CMPD Fredm Disp Freedom Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD Fredm Conf Freedom Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD Fredm Tac Freedom Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD Fredm SCU Freedom Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD Hickery Department

CMPD HickGr Disp Hickory Grove Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD HickGr Conf Hickory Grove Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD HickGr Tac Hickory Grove Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD HickGr SCU Hickory Grove Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD Indpce Department

CMPD Indpce Disp Independence Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD Indpce Conf Independence Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD Indpce Tac Independence Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD Indpce SCU Independence Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD Metro Department

CMPD Metro Disp Metro Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD Metro Conf Metro Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD Metro Tac Metro Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD Metro SCU Metro Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD North Department

CMPD North Disp North Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD North Conf North Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD North Tac North Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD North Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac
CMPD Davidson 1
CMPD Davidson 2
CMPD Huntersville Conf
CMPD Huntersville Inv

CMPD NTryon Department

CMPD NTryon DIsp North Tryon Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD NTryon Conf North Tryon Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD NTryon Tac North Tryon Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD NTryon SCU North Tryon Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD Provdn Department

CMPD Provdn Disp Providence Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD Provdn Conf Providence Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD Provdn Tac Providence Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD Provdn SCU Providence Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD South Department

CMPD South Disp South Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD South Conf South Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD South Tac South Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD South SCU South Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD Univ Department

CMPD Univ Disp University Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD Univ Conf University Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD Univ Tac University Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD Univ SCU University Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD Westvr Department

CMPD Westvr Disp Westover Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD Westvr Conf Westover Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD Westvr Tac Westover Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD Westvr SCU Westover Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD StlCrk Department

CMPD StlCrk Disp Steele Creek Division Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD StlCrk Conf Steele Creek Division Conference Law Talk
CMPD StlCrk Tac Steele Creek Division Tactical Law Tac
CMPD StlCrk SCU Steele Creek Division Street Crimes Unit Law Tac

CMPD Swat Department

CMPD SWAT 1
CMPD SWAT 2
CMPD SWAT 3
CMPD VCAT 1
CMPD VCAT 2
CMPD VCAT3
CMPD BOMB 1
CMPD BOMB 2

CMPD Animal Control Department

CMPD ACO Disp Animal Control Dispatch Law Dispatch
CMPD ACO Conf Animal Control Conference Law Talk

That what it should look like .

 

[PJH]

We do not Taylor the database for any preference. We are also not going to create 15 categories of ~4 talkgroups each. Not happening.

If you don’t want to hear the other talkgroups, use the avoid function on your scanners - and it will no longer be an issue.

It’s really that simple.

 

[Soundman]

If I was a old person I would not know what you were talking about . I would put in my zip code 28078

Medic pop up fine
CFD pop up fine
CMPD you get north end then south end then central crime then hickey department all in one pile .You can't lison to one Department
How is a older person suppost to figer that out . Thy got those scanners to make it easyer on them .

 

[PJH]

CMPD is all one department. Unfortunately your mixing up terms between how uniden labels things and the database, which is causing your confusion.

You may want to reach out to local Uniden users to help you show how things are and how to get a better experience with your equipment.