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Old 01-17-2018, 8:12 AM
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Default NCSHP All TGs active in Wake Co

Maybe I am foggy brain this morning but it seems I am picking up NCSHP TGs from all across that state here in my shack near RDU monitoring West Raleigh site. In the last 4 minutes I have heard radio traffic from Troop F, D, E, C and G. Did someone in HQ decide they wanted to hear everything snowy today?
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Default Eden Morehead Hospital VMK4

Hi All,

Eden Morehead Hospital VMN VMK4 ID 52444 is now

UNC Rockingham Hospital same VMN VMK4 ID 52444

I also hear them say just UNC R to 911 communications.
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Old 01-27-2018, 8:27 AM
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Hi Yall,I travel the entire state of nc.I have a uniden 436 while travelling I do zip code searches to find activity wher I am. I save to 3 sections Eastern nc Middle nc and western nc.There is over 200 sites per section.Can I delete sites not in the area I am in or do I just keep the channels I have found and delete all sites.It takes a long time to scan all sites and I lose a lot of conversations Thanks Yall
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Old 01-27-2018, 8:36 AM
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Hi Yall,I travel the entire state of nc.I have a uniden 436 while travelling I do zip code searches to find activity wher I am. I save to 3 sections Eastern nc Middle nc and western nc.There is over 200 sites per section.Can I delete sites not in the area I am in or do I just keep the channels I have found and delete all sites.It takes a long time to scan all sites and I lose a lot of conversations Thanks Yall
You could delete sites.... or...

There are various options/solutions that all involve creation of at least one favorities list... then... one or more of:
  • use a GPS to have the radio select/enable the sites (and departments*) that are proximal to your current location

  • assign a department(site) quick key to each site (or group of sites) that is proximal to a given county; then you can toggle on and off the quick keys as you travel and only scan/monitor those sites

  • periodically enter a zip code along the route as you go from county to county - of course, you'd have to know the zip codes along your route (not a very good option)

  • You could also create a modified version of this using one favorities lists per county...

* GPS not only selects "sites" - it also selects (or doesn't select) "departments" - department locations and "range" can be extremely large (dozens to hundreds of miles) but can also be very small (1/2 mile); therefore using GPS, you may not hear everything you hear when using something that provides more manual/direct control; to hear a system, site, and/or specific department, the location/range of all three (circles) must "overlap" with your radio's current location and range (circle) setting
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Hi Yall,I travel the entire state of nc.I have a uniden 436 while travelling I do zip code searches to find activity wher I am. I save to 3 sections Eastern nc Middle nc and western nc.There is over 200 sites per section.Can I delete sites not in the area I am in or do I just keep the channels I have found and delete all sites.It takes a long time to scan all sites and I lose a lot of conversations Thanks Yall
Iíve created my own favorites list, Iíve weeded through and every site thatís in a particular county and the TGís for that county are the same Quick key. So for Nash County and the sites in Nash County, Nashville DOC, Rocky Mount sites have the same quick key as the county and so on for every county. State agencies would be their own quick keys
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I'm interested in knowing why the whips are so tall if 800 mhz is being utilized. I get that some low band is still in operation especially for G. I eat lunch with a few B6 troopers sometimes. One car will have the tall whip, one will have a phantom (with no ground plane btw), and the other has his integrated into the stock antenna (Lt.). I asked, but they aren't the techy type. Wondering if one antenna satisfies the Viper and the low band channels. Chime in.
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I don’t think a low band phantom antenna exists. Those aren’t made for lower than VHF-hi.
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I'm interested in knowing why the whips are so tall if 800 mhz is being utilized. I get that some low band is still in operation especially for G. I eat lunch with a few B6 troopers sometimes. One car will have the tall whip, one will have a phantom (with no ground plane btw), and the other has his integrated into the stock antenna (Lt.). I asked, but they aren't the techy type. Wondering if one antenna satisfies the Viper and the low band channels. Chime in.
As you well pointed out, cops aren't techs.

They could be CB antennas, they could be for mutual aid, etc. Best to grab a picture.

I can't tell you how many agency cars I've worked on with modified antennas...

Agency in question had a VHF system, and needed 1/2 wave antennas in some areas of the county (That tiny extra bit of gain helps, over a 1/4 wave, without changing the angle of radiation too much)...Next county over was on an 800 Mhz SZ system....and the officers wanted the 'small antennas'... (1/4 wave) or the 'cool antennas' (Traditional 5/8 over 1/4 'curly q' 800 mhz antenna).... and started seeing antennas cut short. replaced with different antennas, etc. and severely impacted operations. Because they were take home cars, they were given some leeway into outfitting them, with some cars having CB, VHF (agency), UHF, and 800 radios installed (on their own dime).... It took an order from the brass to get them to stop cutting antennas and stupid stuff....

State Patrol had a fender mounted CB antenna, that wasn't adjusted properly, essentially off at an angle, radiating into the ground and sky.... I pointed it out to the trooper and he just shrugged his shoulders and said 'that's how they gave it to me'.. lol...
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Question 8 Unlisted VIPER Talkgroups Found, Help anyone?

Hey guys & gals,

Thru a combination of DSD+ monitoring & UniTrunker, I have discovered so far 8 talkgroups that are not in the database. I found these while monitoring the Anderson Mountain Site in Catawba County, they could be local and they could be bleedover from other sites, hard to say due to me finding talkgroups from all over other Counties on this site... I would have not believed it had I not kept logs of the control channel data! Anywho, Iíll list the 8 unknown talkgroups below, in hopes that anyone else can assist me in finding who they are to submit to the database. Iím actively scanning them but more ears & eyes would help, thanks!

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Have you actually monitored traffic on these talkgroups or are you just going off what the control channel decoder programs are displaying? These are usually two different things when you factor in occasional poor decode or interference that might display inaccurate talkgroups or frequencies.

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Thru a combination of DSD+ monitoring & UniTrunker, I have discovered so far 8 talkgroups that are not in the database. I found these while monitoring the Anderson Mountain Site in Catawba County, they could be local and they could be bleedover from other sites, hard to say due to me finding talkgroups from all over other Counties on this site... I would have not believed it had I not kept logs of the control channel data! Anywho, Iíll list the 8 unknown talkgroups below, in hopes that anyone else can assist me in finding who they are to submit to the database. Iím actively scanning them but more ears & eyes would help, thanks!

9567
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Have you actually monitored traffic on these talkgroups or are you just going off what the control channel decoder programs are displaying? These are usually two different things when you factor in occasional poor decode or interference that might display inaccurate talkgroups or frequencies.
That’s why I was asking for some help with anyone else to help monitor. Some of them are just going off of multiple hits of those talkgroups on my decoder logs. If it was just error in decoding I would think there wouldn’t be multiple hits for that particular one but I could be wrong. There are a few that I have heard audio on but couldn’t make out who it was. I am actively scanning all the talkgroups but I might miss some transmissions because I’m using my scanner that scans other channels too. I just noticed in the database that one of my talkgroups listed (9567) was entered in today under Catawba County as Lake Norman PD... I wasn’t aware Lake Norman had their own PD I thought the particular area was handled by that areas agency, Lake Norman is divided into 4 Counties so I was under the impression each county portion was handled by that county.
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Lake Norman doesn't have it's own PD. That talkgroup is for coordination of all the different counties and agencies that respond to incidents on Lake Norman. Although I believe the UASI North Lakes talkgroup has now been decided on as the primary coordination channel for the lake so make sure you have that loaded in your scanner when it warms up. I'm sure that talkgroup was blindly added from an old out of date fleetmap without any verification on what it's actually used for or what it's name might have changed to.

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Thatís why I was asking for some help with anyone else to help monitor. Some of them are just going off of multiple hits of those talkgroups on my decoder logs. If it was just error in decoding I would think there wouldnít be multiple hits for that particular one but I could be wrong. There are a few that I have heard audio on but couldnít make out who it was. I am actively scanning all the talkgroups but I might miss some transmissions because Iím using my scanner that scans other channels too. I just noticed in the database that one of my talkgroups listed (9567) was entered in today under Catawba County as Lake Norman PD... I wasnít aware Lake Norman had their own PD I thought the particular area was handled by that areas agency, Lake Norman is divided into 4 Counties so I was under the impression each county portion was handled by that county.
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Lake Norman doesn't have it's own PD. That talkgroup is for coordination of all the different counties and agencies that respond to incidents on Lake Norman. Although I believe the UASI North Lakes talkgroup has now been decided on as the primary coordination channel for the lake so make sure you have that loaded in your scanner when it warms up. I'm sure that talkgroup was blindly added from an old out of date fleetmap without any verification on what it's actually used for or what it's name might have changed to.
Yeah I kinda thought so. Oh I scan UASI too, and yes youíre correct, they use North Lakes talkgroup primarily for any interop incidents on the Lake. I havenít heard them use South Lakes yet. Iíve got 4 scanners going, 1 for each county I monitor, and every time thereís been an incident on the lake no matter which of the 4 Counties it fell in they always defaulted to using North Lakes for interop.
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The Lake Norman talkgroup is still included in Catawba County codeplugs and is considered an interoperability talkgroup for incidents on Lake Norman. It is not used often as most incidents use a "tac" talkgroup or a statewide events talkroup if the incident expands. The Lake Norman talkgroup has recently been added to some Mecklenburg County radios. Sherrills Ford-Terrell Fire-Rescue and the sheriff's marine units do have access to the UASI system and can use North Lakes as needed. Not all agencies in Catawba County have access to the UASI system.
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The Lake Norman talkgroup is still included in Catawba County codeplugs and is considered an interoperability talkgroup for incidents on Lake Norman. It is not used often as most incidents use a "tac" talkgroup or a statewide events talkroup if the incident expands. The Lake Norman talkgroup has recently been added to some Mecklenburg County radios. Sherrills Ford Fire-Rescue and the sheriff's marine units do have access to the UASI system and can use North Lakes as needed. Not all agencies in Catawba County have access to the UASI system.
I have a Catawba County Radio (I’m on a Department) and I can’t find any Lake Norman talkgroups in it, do you know what the talkgroup name is?
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Okay quick update, I have some voice activity on 51694, couldn't understand it at first, but when I went back thru my scanner recording it sounded like she was saying "DOT to MP300" and when he answered she said "Yeah we have a report of a dead raccoon on the right shoulder, Westbound lanes at the 13.8" so I'm going to assume since it lies in-between all the IMAP talkgroup ranges that it's some sort of service talkgroup for IMAP, I just can't pinpoint whereabouts it is... I'll keep listening.

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Picked up TG#6546 today. I am pretty sure this is Burke Co REACT.
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I'm noticing some of the smaller counties in the northeast are combining their law talkgroups and only using one. Washington County did this a while back and put sheriff's office and Plymouth Police together (much like they used to be several decades ago on 460.125). After watching the Plymouth site for a few hours I'm wondering if Martin County has done the same thing. I'm seeing lots of traffic on the Williamston PD TG (30023) but nothing on any of the Martin County SO talkgroups. Having not listened to their SO in... decades, I'm not sure what numbers are who. I heard an #8xx unit check out at an address that was well outside the city limits of Williamston a while ago.

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