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can someone tell me what is picked up on opp simp 1.... 2, etc..

All I ever hear is heavy white noise static. I always have to lock it out when I fire the scanner up. I am sure there is something I am missing doing etc...I run a uniden 396xt
 

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Are you talking about the the VHF or the UHF SIM?

For the VHF SIM on SIM 1, I heard once of twice the OPP helicopter. P.S. I live in Northern Ontario in a town of about 40 000 with its own police force, so the OPP simplexes are rarely used. When I travel to Southern Ontario (at least once a year), I heard the OPP helicopter on SIM 1 (140.97000).

As for the UHF simplexes, never heard a thing either in Northern or Southern Ontario.

Maybe someone for Southern Ontario can futher enlighten you on the use on the OPP SIM in their area. These are my observations so far.
 
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CORRECTION : OPP helicopter can be heard on SIM 11. Also, when their system is down, the communication is done on VHF SIM 1. To add, I heard a few Amber Alerts over the years on either VHF SIM 1 or SIM 11 (can't remember which)

Hope this helps and that someone will jump in to add for Southern Ontario :)
 
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If you are referring to some of their other simplex channels, those are still used for surveillance and such quite frequently, and almost always encrypted. Other than that SIM11 is the primary fallback channel when a Fleetnet site is down and as already mentioned is used by aircraft. Some of the aircraft now have P25 radios in them and are directly on Fleetnet the same as any other radio.
 

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Oh... forgot to mention. The UHF PC01 and PC02 channels are almost always used at the laser intercepts on the 401/402 in the London corridor. Low power (can only pick them up for a KM or 2) but quite entertaining to listen to :)
 

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SIM1 on VHF is used by motorcycle escorts. I hear them practicing on it quite frequently in the Orillia area.

It is not used when Fleetnet fails as the Comm Centres do not have capabilities on it. SIM11 is used for that purpose.

The last time I heard the UHF simplex channels was during a wide load escort up Highway 400.
 

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ok that sounds good. So I don't want to delete these then for sure. I have never heard an o.p.p. plane, but have ready many others on here saying so. Like I say, all I ever get is a bunch of white noise garbage on this. Thanks for everyones replies, this is great and appreciated!
 

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HI guys im new to the digital scanner thing just learning how to use my psr-500, im in south eastern ontario and got opp on , 141.4375, 142 .7375, 142.9750 , 142.3200, 148.2125, 141.6900, 142.9800, 141.4350, 141.4400, 142.4375, 142.7475, all received using nac , and p-25 settings, kingston ambulance comes on some of the frequencies *** well,
 

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HI guys im new to the digital scanner thing just learning how to use my psr-500, im in south eastern ontario and got opp on , 141.4375, 142 .7375, 142.9750 , 142.3200, 148.2125, 141.6900, 142.9800, 141.4350, 141.4400, 142.4375, 142.7475, all received using nac , and p-25 settings, kingston ambulance comes on some of the frequencies *** well,
You are picking up frequencies from Fleetnet:

Bell FleetNet - Ontario Provincial Government Zone 2 Trunking System, Southeast Zone, Ontario - Scanner Frequencies

Although some of them look to be a few fractions of a mhz off. Errrm, maybe all of them so the step is wrong???

You need to set up the trunking system as shown in the link.

And help me out here guys: Is the 148.2125 an input???
 
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now that ive got win 500 not freezing up because my firewall was sucking up my cpu on the pc, i can try setting up the sweeper and tsys groups, like i said im new to the digital stuff had analog scanners that were easy to set up the digital is like chinese to me,lol i printed the manual for my psr 500 my god way to confusing,
 
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The GRE PSR-500, like my PSR-600, defaults to the U.S. band plan for VHF high band, which is why the frequencies displayed are using a 12.5 KHz. channel spacing. It needs to be changed to the Canadian band plan, which will change the channel spacing to 5 KHz. for this band segment. (Bandplan = Yes/Canada.)

148.2125 MHz. is an example of the erroneous frequency display a 12.5 KHz. channel step size setting will provide. The closest 5 KHz. step frequency "on the grid" according to Industry Canada's SRSP500e document would be 148.2100 MHz., and it should be an input to a repeater 4.99 MHz. lower, on 143.2200. Of course users in that range are typically "Protected" so we can't be told who is licenced for that frequency.

As for Fleetnet inputs above 143 MHz., I've run Trunk88 on all the sites in Southeastern Ontario, and the only one is 148.7050 MHz., LCN 179, which is an input to 152.0000 MHz., LCN 598 on Site 34, VANKLK (Vankleek Hill.) Interesting, this is not in accordance with SRSP500e. It seems Fleetnet gets to make its own rules.
 

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Enter into the expert menu... hit

PROG (there should now be 3 options at the bottom of the screen)
FUNC ----> GLOB (hit F3)
scroll down
I suggest changing
FLEXSTEP to ON
then scroll down farther
BANDPLAN... change to Canada



so how do i change it to a canadian band plan??, i tried to do the firmware update for canada but the scanner froze had to call gree and talk to a teck
 

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You don't need FlexStep anymore since they added the option to change bandplans. Also I'd suggest that in the future if you have questions like this, start a new thread... Don't hijack somebody else's
 

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I realize how far this has wandered off the original topic, so prepared to start a new
thread but just wanted to comment...

148.2125 MHz. is an example of the erroneous frequency display a 12.5 KHz. channel step size setting will provide. The closest 5 KHz. step frequency "on the grid" according to Industry Canada's SRSP500e document would be 148.2100 MHz., and it should be an input to a repeater 4.99 MHz. lower, on 143.2200. Of course users in that range are typically "Protected" so we can't be told who is licenced for that frequency.

As for Fleetnet inputs above 143 MHz., I've run Trunk88 on all the sites in Southeastern Ontario, and the only one is 148.7050 MHz., LCN 179, which is an input to 152.0000 MHz., LCN 598 on Site 34, VANKLK (Vankleek Hill.) Interesting, this is not in accordance with SRSP500e. It seems Fleetnet gets to make its own rules.

The 4.99MHz offset is far from standardized in a band full of legacy assignments and
co-ordinations. 143MHz outputs can have inputs below in the 139MHz range, or above
at 148-150MHz.

I've seen several Fleetnet inputs in the 148-150MHz range in E. Ont. so the one you
found is not an anomoly.

148.210 MHz used to be an MOH repeater output, which might still be in use,
though not listed in TAFL; may be a Fleetnet input.

Dave
 
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