OnQue in Ottawa area

[Aurora]

Looking at Camp Fortune CC on Ch. 122-452.7375 and it is showing the following neighbouring sites not listed in radio reference:

Site 23 with CC=Ch. 127
Site 24 with CC=Ch. 128
Site 45 with CC=Ch. 321

Is there such a thing as a channel frequency list existing for OnQue R202 anywhere?

 

[slicerwizard]

Found these a few years ago; don't know if any details have changed. Someone will have to monitor on weekdays...


; OnQue Site 23, Dwyer Hill

NEXEDGE48, 202, 23, 126, 462.33750, 0.0, 0 ; CC
NEXEDGE48, 202, 23, 127, 460.06250, 0.0, 0 ; CC


; OnQue Site 24, Bonnville
;
; single channel site with composite control channel (CC/voice/data)
;
; Neighbours: 21 22 23 30 32

NEXEDGE48, 202, 24, 128, 451.72500, 0.0, 0 ; CCC

 

[DaveH]

I don't keep organized lists much these days though it shouldn't stop anyone else from doing it...

Once in a while, enhanced propagation strikes and I write down a few notes. However, I am in range of the Quebec and Ontario system 202's which have at least some overlapping site numbers (e.g. 22, 27, 28), just to add confusion.

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=8070

https://www.radioreference.com/apps/db/?sid=8041

This is what I have:

Site 23 424.7875 (Ch=304)
Site 24 420.5250 (Ch=148)
Site 45 (nothing)

These are definitely Quebec, not sure if there is also Ontario Site 24; may not help much.

Don't know if 451.725 in Bonville is still active, though still licensed, used to hear CC on it.

Dave

 

[Aurora]

Thanks for the update, I'll try to put together a list for posting.

From these it looks safe to say site 24 has both 451.725 (128) & 420.525 (148) ?

And site 23 has 462.33750 (126), 460.06250 (127) & 424.7875 (304) ?

 

[DaveH]

Thanks for the update, I'll try to put together a list for posting.

From these it looks safe to say site 24 has both 451.725 (128) & 420.525 (148) ?

And site 23 has 462.33750 (126), 460.06250 (127) & 424.7875 (304) ?

Hold off before anyone updates the DB. You are mixing frequencies from two systems with the same site number. Also, unless 451.725 is confirmed, should not be added.

Dave

 

[mciupa]

Hold off before anyone updates the DB. You are mixing frequencies from two systems with the same site number. Also, unless 451.725 is confirmed, should not be added.

Dave

OnQue Site 24, Bonville
;
; single channel site with composite control channel (CC/voice/data)
;
; Neighbours: 21 22 23 30 32

NEXEDGE48, 202, 24, 128, 451.72500, 0.0, 0 ; CCC

I can't think of an instance anytime where slicerwizard's information was incorrect.

 

[DaveH]

I can't think of an instance anytime where slicerwizard's information was incorrect.

That is not the point, it may have been correct a few years ago, may still be, but I have not heard it for a while, and may have changed.

Someone within normal groundwave coverage (I am not) could quickly confirm this.

If you feel that unconfirmed info should be submitted, proceed.

Dave


edit: I see you've done that.

 

[mciupa]

Since it is bothersome to see the listing, it has been removed.

I can add it easily again if need be.

 

[DaveH]

Someone within normal groundwave coverage (I am not) could quickly confirm this.

.

Don't everybody volunteer at once...

It would take somebody in the vicinity of Cornwall, Hawkesbury, or even the eastern limits of Ottawa etc. all of about 30 seconds to enter this into a scanner and listen for a CC.

Dave

 

[mmisk]

Just got home, and I am in the far south east.

Just got home, and I am in the far south east and have a tower.

However, to avoid more confusion, I would like to confirm what system and frequency you would like me to check

Mike

 

[DaveH]

Just got home, and I am in the far south east and have a tower.

However, to avoid more confusion, I would like to confirm what system and frequency you would like me to check

Mike

Hi Mike, just wonder if you can hear NXDN 4.8k control channel on 451.725.

Dave

 

[mmisk]

No nothing at all at this time.

 

[mmisk]

RE: No nothing at all at this time.

I will keep an eye on 451.752

I see that 450.250 and 455.659, AM Radio 1200 and 580 have no audio now just carrier.

Here is a curious one: 463.514 only hear radio checks not much else.

 

[DaveH]

RE: No nothing at all at this time.

I will keep an eye on 451.752

I see that 450.250 and 455.659, AM Radio 1200 and 580 have no audio now just carrier.

Here is a curious one: 463.514 only hear radio checks not much else.

Interesting, either it's there and neither of us can hear it, or it could have moved frequency, or maybe a channel was added which is now the CC, and 451.725 is a voice channel...

I found 451.1625 licensed at the same site (used to be IES, then Glentel I think, now BM). Both records show NB FM analog so something's not up to date. We could check this other frequency.

On 463.5125, have heard this activity over the past few years...yah sounds like security at various sites doing mostly radio checks. Perhaps correlating all the names of sites (including Rockliffe) might lead to something.

Dave

 

[mmisk]

451.725

I have a 1/4 wave 450 antenna at the top if my tower, and also a long uhf corner reflector from and old TV antenna, and does it ever work good for scanning 450 and 800. Only problem is my CDE rotor will not go past a certain point so I cannot turn it to the east.

I plan on finally taking it down this weekend to see what is wrong with it.

 

[DaveH]

Enhanced propagation these last few mornings, but heard nothing on either 451.1625 or 451.7250. Vankleek Hill site on 460.6000 was heard.

Dave

 

[mmisk]

460.600 NXDN and Broken Ring Gear

VE3HJV came over and helped me take down my rotor.

Took it apart and it has a broken ring gear. Removed a ring gear out of another rotor that VE3HJV has and put it in my rotor.
It is ready to go backup as soon as I ready an 11 element beam to also install.
Perhaps tomorrow morning. Have ordered a new ring gear, lucky that they are still available.
So nice to have this warm weather for this job.

Yes I can hear the 460.600 NXDN but not very strong at this time.

 

[slicerwizard]

; OnQue Site 24, Bonnville
;
; single channel site with composite control channel (CC/voice/data)
;
; Neighbours: 21 22 23 30 32

NEXEDGE48, 202, 24, 128, 451.72500, 0.0, 0 ; CCC

FYI, this was likely back in 2014. It would make sense to check the neighbour lists for the Cumberland, Camp Fortune, Dwyer Hill, Vankleek Hill and Vernon sites. If Bonnville is still on the air, it should show up on some of those lists.

Ok, I see that one post mentions that Camp Fortune is still broadcasting site 24 / CC 128 as a neighbour. So the site is still out there and using the same CC frequency. It might have moved and it might not be a CCC site now, but it probably still is. These CCC sites are generally fill in sites for a single customer and are usually not on high towers, so don't expect to hear them from very far away.

CCC Site 15 - St. Mary's: on the Maple Leaf Foods water tower; check the license for antenna height - it won't be much

CCC Site 35 - Dashwood: on a dinky 50m tower in the corner of a farmer's field


So info is probably unchanged, but confirmation is always a good idea.

OTOH, if the info was submitted in 2014, it would still be there to this day, so I don't think it would be wrong to "submit" it now...

 

[mmisk]

DMR 202-6 on 463.6125

Installed the replacement ring gear in rotor, and installed it on the tower.

Looking now at those frequencies.

Found DMR 202-6 on 463.6125 Vankleek Hill?
NL: 202-4, 202-7, and 202-11

Found 167-3 on 460.250

Antenna is pointed east

 

[mmisk]

NXDN48 on 451.725 Signal Received

Hi Mike, just wonder if you can hear NXDN 4.8k control channel on 451.725.

Dave

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Good conditions this morning and received this on 451.725:

NXDN48 R202-24 NL: 21 22 23 30 32

Mike