Southern California Edison

[Fireboat03]

Procom96 screenshot

 

[Fireboat03]

Screenshot #2. I submitted to the DB

 

[Fireboat03]

I was hearing Dever's substation and Santa Ana on this site so far

 

[scottyhetzel]

Thanks Fireboat,
I been trying to find the sce P25....running you control channel on my HP2-E to look for activity on Monday...

The current c.c. on db was not correct.

What is "LCN". It shows 16422

 

[Fireboat03]

Not sure what you mean by the LCN 16422

I took a better screenshot of the Procom96

 

[scottyhetzel]

Under current activity, it lists

No. LCN Freq. TGID. Unit I'd mod

1. 16422. 935.4875 SYS:05AAAh. Site:1-124


LCN is logical channel no. I figured out

My signal gain is too low to be Edom hill...it must be chuckwalla ( cactus city ) .

 

[scottyhetzel]

Palm spring area is now active on the P25. I submitted info to the RR db. HeRd traffic on the transmission I.d..

 

[LAflyer]

Site 1-124 updated in Db. Per FCC licence its shown to be located at Desert Hot Springs

 

[scottyhetzel]

Palm spring area is now active on the P25. I submitted info to the RR db. HeRd traffic on the transmission I.d..

Site 1-124 updated in Db. Per FCC licence its shown to be located at Desert Hot Springs

The tower is located on Edom hill... Unincorporated area...mailing is probably D.H.S. Thanks La Flyer !

 

[kma371]

Conditions were good last night. I added a new site and some neighbor info to a few others that were previously not known

 

[bryan_herbert]

I can confirm Site 1-127 is Red Mountain (Boulder City) in Clark County, NV and it sounds beautiful from Las Vegas.

System ID : 5AA
System Name :
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-127
Tower Number (Hex) : T017F
Tower Description :
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) : WNVW897K
Timestamp : Fri Mar 25 19:28:27 2016

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
04,935.01250,0.01250,-39.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,935.01250,0.01250,-39.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"04-0079","c",936.00000,"04-0079",897.00000,0,0
"04-0124","di",936.56250,"04-0124",897.56250,0,6
"04-0153","a",936.92500,"04-0153",0.00000,1,0

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
1121,"T0179",5aa,"04-0118",936.48750,""
1128,"T0180",5aa,"04-0092",936.16250,""

 

[bryan_herbert]

Cross referencing neighbor data with FCC data...

Site 1-121 is Potosi Mountain (Blue Diamond) Clark County

Site 1-128 is Christmas Tree (Laughlin) Clark County

 

[AM909]

Like some other P25 systems, of the 15 SCE sites I've heard of system BEE00-5AA, the normal practice is that the NAC is 5Ax, where x is the same as the last digit of the site # (i.e. site modulo 10). This appears to be true in all but three of those 15 sites:

Site 096: NAC 5A4 decoded from CC 936.4125
Site 100: NAC 5A8 decoded from CC 936.8250
Site 106: NAC 5A4 decoded from CC 936.2750

Are these correct? Any clues why they would change this useful pattern in these three cases?

I'll note that the site CCs are confirmed by many of the neighbor lists.

 

[trumpetman]

With such a large system it's very easy to reuse the frequencies in a small section of spectrum. The pattern was probably just an easy extra step to prevent cross-talk (spread all sites across the 16 options 0-F) but the 3 sites in question may still line up and share the same NAC & frequency so they have to change it again.

I've seen some systems that leave the NAC default across the board and only change the NAC, or in this case the ACI (access code index) and I've seen others that follow a pattern like this with either modulo 10 or 16.

Hope this helps.

Like some other P25 systems, of the 15 SCE sites I've heard of system BEE00-5AA, the normal practice is that the NAC is 5Ax, where x is the same as the last digit of the site # (i.e. site modulo 10). This appears to be true in all but three of those 15 sites:

Site 096: NAC 5A4 decoded from CC 936.4125
Site 100: NAC 5A8 decoded from CC 936.8250
Site 106: NAC 5A4 decoded from CC 936.2750

Are these correct? Any clues why they would change this useful pattern in these three cases?

I'll note that the site CCs are confirmed by many of the neighbor lists.

 

[ocscanr]

I don't get how a large company can get away with using frequencies they don't have licenses for.

Anyway...Is Site 106 on 936.2750 on Pleasant's Pk? It seems to be the only site I get clearly when in Silverado Cyn.

3 Days until my BCD325P2 arrive s so I have been adding a few Phase II systems into my software. I Wanted to tag 106 as the OC Simulcast replacement but thought I'd ask first since the RR page is not always updated with cutting edge info you guys have collected. =)

 

[ocscanr]

Oops....I guess they do have a license. For the entire state. On both chunks of "YI - Other Indust/Land Transp. 896-901/935-940 MHz, Trunked" spectrum.

WNVW894 - SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA EDISON COMPANY
896-901 & 935-940 MHz

Also see WQVX771

 

[avascan522]

SCE Blackjack Site

As everyone knows by now, Edison has fully switched to Phase II, including Catalina Island.

From what I learned, the power gen plant at Pebbly Beach (Avalon) transmits to the Palos Verdes Site since Pebbly Beach does not have coverage from Dakin Peak. Otherwise, Dakin Peak covers most of the southern end of the island. I have those frequencies and monitor the system from time-to-time.

Yesterday, I went frequency hunting in the interior of the island, and got within 1/4 mile from the Blackjack tower. I'm trying to identify the Blackjack site. I picked up these control channels that were relatively strong from my location:

935.3125
935.3625
935.3875
935.8125
935.8500
936.2750
936.5875
936.8250

When I moved on, and set up again at the Catalina Airport (1.4 mi from Blackjack), most of the control channels had dropped off, except for 935.8500, which was booming into my scanner, even though I was in my car. I enabled attenuator, and was still receiving signal. The Dakin Peak site even registered with 2 bars of signal strength into my BCD436HP (without attenuator).

Can anyone else conclusively agree that this might be the Blackjack site? I will do more "investigation" in the next few days, including listening for the OPS 61 talkgroup on that site.

 

[allend]

I see that you have two fequencies that might be typo's for the system above since the whole system is on 900mhz.

395.8125
395.8500

 

[avascan522]

I see that you have two fequencies that might be typo's for the system above since the whole system is on 900mhz.

395.8125
395.8500

Yes. I meant 935.xxxx.

 

[allend]

Got it. I will do some testing with those frequencies and report back. I will run Pro96com and see what I can figure out too.