Northumberland co-new pging system?

[ChrisRupert]

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Also for those of you that did not know, Knobeles Amusement Park in Elysburg, PA has switched over to a 100% VHF digital MotoTrbo Radio system this year. They purchased all new radios and accessories and repeaters. They do also have a VHF P25 Digital TRS base radio installed so County Public Safety can access the parks comm center on P25 and then be patched into a parks specific talk group like EMS or Security.

Anyone able to help me with the new channel plan to update my "Bible?"

 

[nc4954]

Well Northumberland County is officially operating on the new P25 Digital Trunked Radio System. As of cutover around 2:30 Wednesday afternoon, there have no issues. So now all Police, Fire, and EMS are now operating on the new system. In the near future, some local DPW agencies, THE AOAA Park, and the Knobeles P25 RADIO (interoperability patch to their MotoTrbo System) will be on line.

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[SlipNutz15]

What company was selected to do the system installation and upkeep? Keystone Communications?

Also, how do out of county units contact Northumberland County? Is dispatch channel a Tx only freq or can out of county units talk to dispatch on it?

 

[nc4954]

Yes Keystone Communications is the vendor that installed the system and will do upkeep.

As for out of county units, there is an analog "NC Interop 1" channel that should be programmed in out of county VHF radios to communicate with NC units or the VHF "V-TAC" frequencies will be utilized. Right now the SOP for that is being worked out.

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[SlipNutz15]

I'm asking if Northumberland dispatch has channels available for out of county units to talk to them

 

[nc4954]

No, the dispatch channel Is TX only. As for out of county units to talk to NC 911, I am not 100% sure what channel they will want to use. I will try to find out and let you know on here.

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[alexguf]

Do you have radio frequencies and Radio tag for them. Northumberland county

 

[alexguf]

Any information would be appricated VHF ANALOG AND THE TRUNK SYSTEM FOR NORTHUMBERLAND COUNTY

 

[W7FDX]

Yes Keystone Communications is the vendor that installed the system and will do upkeep.

As for out of county units, there is an analog "NC Interop 1" channel that should be programmed in out of county VHF radios to communicate with NC units or the VHF "V-TAC" frequencies will be utilized. Right now the SOP for that is being worked out.

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Any idea on what this "NC Interop 1" frequency is?

 

[Jim_Shaffer]

Are they in fact using the analog simulcast dispatch channel? I haven't heard anything on it since the digital system went full-time.

 

[nc4954]

Yes we are using 151.145 and it is patched to NC Fire Primary on the P25 system. And it is simulcast.

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[Jim_Shaffer]

Thanks for confirming, now I've got to figure out why I'm not hearing it. I'm pretty sure I even have it programmed as a priority channel, yet I keep hearing fire dispatches on the digital system only which I haven't set as priority.

Is the analog channel transmitted from all towers? I'm up near the Lycoming County border, with line of sight to the Muncy Hills tower.

 

[nc4954]

Yes it should be!

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[Jim_Shaffer]

This showed up recently. Maybe the analog channels are going to be the interop channels? (Location #6 is the one that overlooks my house.)

PW KNNK577
NORTHUMBERLAND, COUNTY OF
[GOVERNMENTAL ENTITY PROVIDING EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS]
Control Point 1 - 911 GREENOUGH ST, SUNBURY PA 570-988-4217
(link)
06/02/2017 License Modified
(transaction log)
1 - MONTOUR RIDGE SUMMIT, NORTHUMBERLAND (NORTHUMBERLAND) PA  [Structure: Guyed]  (map)
    [Antenna 1 - HTT: 27.0m, HAAT: 263.0m]
    [Antenna 2 - HTT: 106.4m, HAAT: 360.3m]
 151.1375   FB     Ant: 2   16p    16e    Units: 1                     11K2F3E 
 154.65     FB     Ant: 1   110p   88e    Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.7525   FB     Ant: 2   16p    16e    Units: 1                     11K2F3E 
 155.25     FB     Ant: 1   110p   88e    Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.415    FB2    Ant: 1   110p   88e    Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.475    FB     Ant: 1   110p   88e    Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.49     FB     Ant: 1   110p   88e    Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.535    FB     Ant: 1   110p   88e    Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.1      FB     Ant: 1   110p   87e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.61     FB     Ant: 1   110p   87e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 158.775    FB2    Ant: 1   110p   87e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
2 - RT 147 FISHER FERRY ROAD, SUNBURY (NORTHUMBERLAND) PA  [Structure: Lattice tower]  (map)
    [Antenna 1 - HTT: 27.0m, HAAT: 244.0m]
    [Antenna 2 - HTT: 86.3m, HAAT: 293.7m]
 154.65     FB     Ant: 1   110p   101e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 154.4525   FB     Ant: 2   100p   150e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 
 155.415    FB     Ant: 1   110p   101e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 151.1375   FB     Ant: 2   100p   150e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 
 155.475    FB     Ant: 1   110p   101e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.49     FB     Ant: 1   110p   101e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.1      FB     Ant: 1   45p    35e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.61     FB     Ant: 1   110p   35e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 158.775    FB2    Ant: 1   110p   35e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
3 - STATE ROUTE 2026, SHAMOKIN (NORTHUMBERLAND) PA  [Structure: Lattice tower]  (map)
    [Antenna 1 - HTT: 27.0m, HAAT: 149.0m]
    [Antenna 2 - HTT: 24.0m, HAAT: 149.9m]
    [Antenna 3 - HTT: 24.0m, HAAT: 149.9m]
 154.65     FB     Ant: 1   110p   123e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 453.6      FB2    Ant: 2   100p   75e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.1      FB     Ant: 3   110p   75e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.415    FB     Ant: 1   110p   123e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 453.75     FB2    Ant: 2   100p   75e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.25     FB     Ant: 3   110p   75e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.475    FB     Ant: 1   110p   123e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.49     FB     Ant: 3   110p   75e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.49     FB     Ant: 1   110p   123e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.61     FB     Ant: 3   110p   94e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
4 - BOYERS KNOB FIRE TOWER, SHAMOKIN (NORTHUMBERLAND) PA  [Structure: Building]  (map)
    [Antenna 1 - HTT: 27.0m, HAAT: 229.0m]
    [Antenna 2 - HTT: 27.0m, HAAT: 221.2m]
 155.415    FB     Ant: 1   110p   115e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.1      FB     Ant: 2   110p   43e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.475    FB     Ant: 1   110p   115e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.25     FB     Ant: 2   110p   43e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.49     FB     Ant: 2   110p   43e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 453.6      FB2    Ant: 1   110p   148e   Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.61     FB     Ant: 2   110p   43e    Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 453.75     FB2    Ant: 1   110p   148e   Units: 1      Pagers: 500    11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 158.7375   FB     Ant: 1   100p   150e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 
 159.4725   FB     Ant: 1   100p   150e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 
5 - 32.0 km radius around fixed location 1 
 154.65     MO     Ant: 1   110p   110e   Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 154.71     MO     Ant: 1   110p   110e   Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.25     MO     Ant: 1   110p   110e   Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.415    MO     Ant: 1   110p   110e   Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.475    MO     Ant: 1   110p   110e   Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.49     MO     Ant: 1   110p   110e   Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.535    MO     Ant: 1   110p   110e   Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 153.86     MO     Ant: 1   45p    60e    Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.1      MO     Ant: 1   45p    60e    Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 155.61     MO     Ant: 1   45p    60e    Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 158.775    MO     Ant: 1   45p    60e    Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 458.6      MO     Ant: 1   45p    60e    Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
 458.75     MO     Ant: 1   45p    60e    Units: 500                   11K2F3E 8K10F1E (P25 Phase I) 
6 - LEWIS FOUR, 390 Too Steep Road, Watsontown (NORTHUMBERLAND) PA  [Structure: Guyed]  (map)
    [Antenna 1 - HTT: 80.7m, HAAT: 188.4m]
 155.1      FB     Ant: 1   100p   100e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 
 155.7525   FB     Ant: 1   100p   150e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E 
 151.1375   FB     Ant: 1   100p   150e   Units: 1                     11K2F3E

 

[ChrisRupert]

Yes, some of those licensed are the VTAC channels for interop.

155.7525 VCALL
151.1375 VTAC1
154.4525 VTAC2
158.7375 VTAC3
159.4725 VTAC4

Most of these listed on the license are Law Enforcement frequencies, I believe.

 

[nc4954]

The V-TAC Channels are programmed in ALL Radios. Fire, EMS, PD, Municipal etc for out of county interoperatibility and in county interoperability. But, in county radios have 2 P25 Trunked Interop Talk groups and 1 analog frequency labeled as NC Interop 1 also for to be used for out of county mutual aid coming into the county for alarms.

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[mabbey]

Hows everyone tonight? I am playing around with my scanner trying to get it t pick up the police better anyone having any good luck picking them up or are we all in the same boat?

 

[nc4954]

Hello there, you will need to buy a P25 Digital Phase I and I I Trunking Radio scanner to listen to PD and the Fire and EMS Ops channels.

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[W7FDX]

Hows everyone tonight? I am playing around with my scanner trying to get it t pick up the police better anyone having any good luck picking them up or are we all in the same boat?

mabbey, you may be experiencing simulcast distortion so your best bet would be to put a directional antenna pointed at a single tower site to minimize it.

 

[mabbey]

Signal

mabbey, you may be experiencing simulcast distortion so your best bet would be to put a directional antenna pointed at a single tower site to minimize it.

Thank you in using a uniden bcd536hp scanner . Any recommendations on a antenna model or brand to accomplish this