CPS vs Depot Question

[MFG_rrt]

I'll admit that before I received my MOL and purchased downloaded my legit copy of CPS I did download a copy online from another source. With that said I noticed something in my CPS that I wanted to ask about just to be clear on which version I'm operating on since I don't actually use CPS very often I can't recall which version is currently installed on my computer (legit vs. other).

In my Radio Information it shows:

Codeplug Version: R18.00.05
Firmware Version: R17.11.00
DSP Version: R17.11.00
Tuning Version: R01.00.00

Tracking
Last Programmed Time and Date: 3/14/2019 7:21:00 PM
Source: Depot

Born on Time and Date: 8/2/2018 8:09:00 AM
Source: Depot

FLASHport
Last Upgrade Source: CPS


So the last time I updated it shows the source as Depot, but the FLASHport shows CPS. Why are those two components different, and because it shows Depot as the last source of my latest codeplug does that mean I'm not using my legit copy of CPS?

Thanks in advance.

 

[GTR8000]

Once a radio is hit with Depot, it will show that in the codeplug forever. We really don't encourage open talk of that software around here, FYI. You're better off asking on the other website that apparently has no issues openly talking about and justifying defrauding Motorola.

 

[MFG_rrt]

Once a radio is hit with Depot, it will show that in the codeplug forever. We really don't encourage open talk of that software around here, FYI. You're better off asking on the other website that apparently has no issues openly talking about and justifying defrauding Motorola.

Thanks for that bit of info. I understand your other comments, I was hesitant to ask but since I don't actually use that software I took the chance that someone would help shed some light.

 

[MFG_rrt]

Once a radio is hit with Depot, it will show that in the codeplug forever. We really don't encourage open talk of that software around here, FYI. You're better off asking on the other website that apparently has no issues openly talking about and justifying defrauding Motorola.

Also - considering I purchased this 8k from a channel partner, and they sent it direct to Motorola to enable all the features I paid for, could that be why it shows depot?

 

[MTS2000des]

Also - considering I purchased this 8k from a channel partner, and they sent it direct to Motorola to enable all the features I paid for, could that be why it shows depot?

Quite possible. So long as MSI has the upgrades in their database, it really doesn't matter. For warranty purposes, if you send the radio in under flat rate/SFS, you'll get what the radio was shipped with if they can't validate the Flashport aftermarket upgrade.

 

[MFG_rrt]

Quite possible. So long as MSI has the upgrades in their database, it really doesn't matter. For warranty purposes, if you send the radio in under flat rate/SFS, you'll get what the radio was shipped with if they can't validate the Flashport aftermarket upgrade.

Thanks. This is the real basis for my thread. I understand that anyone who uses depot is taking on the associated risks, but since I have paid for and use the legit software with a legit radio I just want to be sure that if a warranty case does ever come about that I'm not unpleasantly surprised by something I'm currently unaware of.

 

[MFG_rrt]

Another member on a different site confirmed that since my radio was sent to MSI to update the flashcode that's likely the reason Depot is stuck with the radio forever. Like @MTS2000des says it should be in their database and of no consequence to me.

Mods feel free to close this thread if you'd like.

 

[GTR8000]

Also - considering I purchased this 8k from a channel partner, and they sent it direct to Motorola to enable all the features I paid for, could that be why it shows depot?

I don't want to beat you up over this, but it seems rather sketchy. It would be very rare for a radio to be sent to MSI/Depot for FLASHcode upgrades, as they are easily done via an iButton through CPS, or through Radio Management software. A "channel partner" could absolutely do this without having to send the radio out. Frankly, I would suspect that Depot CPS was used by someone at some point, and likely not by MSI.

The Born on Time and Date is another indication that a codeplug was possibly created in Depot CPS and force-written into the radio. You didn't include the original Codeplug Version from the Original Programmed Information section along with the Born on Time/Date; that is a key piece of information.

Another member on a different site confirmed that since my radio was sent to MSI to update the flashcode that's likely the reason Depot is stuck with the radio forever.

That's actually not what he said. He said exactly what I did, which was that if Depot CPS is used on the radio, it will show up in the codeplug forever regardless of whether legitimate, regular CPS is used afterwards.

 

[MFG_rrt]

I don't want to beat you up over this, but it seems rather sketchy. It would be very rare for a radio to be sent to MSI/Depot for FLASHcode upgrades, as they are easily done via an iButton through CPS, or through Radio Management software. A "channel partner" could absolutely do this without having to send the radio out. Frankly, I would suspect that Depot CPS was used by someone at some point, and likely not by MSI.

The Born on Time and Date is another indication that a codeplug was possibly created in Depot CPS and force-written into the radio. You didn't include the original Codeplug Version from the Original Programmed Information section along with the Born on Time/Date; that is a key piece of information.


That's actually not what he said. He said exactly what I did, which was that if Depot CPS is used on the radio, it will show up in the codeplug forever regardless of whether legitimate, regular CPS is used afterwards.

Yes you're right, sorry. I misunderstood at first.

I have to say though, although you never know, I would be very surprised if this particular vendor used depot software that they are not allowed to own to upgrade my radio. This is a well-known commercial dealer in this region.

 

[Ant9270]

Say the word “depot” on RR and watch the world burn....

 

[MFG_rrt]

Say the word “depot” on RR and watch the world burn....

I can understand why. In this case, I hope they are using discretion to leave it open as it's not really a discussion as to the workings of it, more so clarity to understand if my radio is wearing the scarlet letter or not.

 

[GTR8000]

Look at the codeplug again. Specifically, look at the line between these two lines....

Born on Time and Date 8/2/2018 8:09:00 AM
Source Depot

If that missing line that you didn't post says Codeplug Version R14.00.00 then Depot CPS was used on the radio, and not in the legitimate way.

I see that the guys are telling you the same things on the other site.

 

[MFG_rrt]

Look at the codeplug again. Specifically, look at the line between these two lines....

Born on Time and Date 8/2/2018 8:09:00 AM
Source Depot

If that missing line that you didn't post says Codeplug Version R14.00.00 then Depot CPS was used on the radio, and not in the legitimate way.

I see that the guys are telling you the same things on the other site.

That field shows R15.00.01

 

[GTR8000]

That field shows R15.00.01

Supposedly Depot R15 also made it out into the wild, but not as widely as R14. In any event, Motorola MSI/Depot would not be using Depot R15 in the summer of 2018, when the APX releases were already at R18.

For your sake, I hope this somehow turns out to be a legitimately upgraded radio. I suppose you could try reaching out to Motorola to see if they have a record of ever working on or selling a FLASH upgrade for that serial #. Good luck!

 

[MFG_rrt]

Supposedly Depot R15 also made it out into the wild, but not as widely as R14. In any event, Motorola MSI/Depot would not be using Depot R15 in the summer of 2018, when the APX releases were already at R18.

For your sake, I hope this somehow turns out to be a legitimately upgraded radio. I suppose you could try reaching out to Motorola to see if they have a record of ever working on or selling a FLASH upgrade for that serial #. Good luck!

Thanks. I found out my answer from the dealer. I'll just leave it at that.

 

[FFPM571]

Thanks. I found out my answer from the dealer. I'll just leave it at that.

I hope that the dealer will stand behind their decision to essentially hack your radio when it comes time for any warranty work that needs to be done when it has to be sent to the real depot