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FYI,
It appears each PennDOT County District has a TG dedicated to Line Painting.

Cumberland 11165 ?
Dauphin 11171 ?
York 11169 ?

:unsure: Just throwing it out there.. Lancaster's is the only one I can confirm.. 11194 was submitted along with some other TG's that'll appear in the DB soon; pending an admin's approval.. :)

11194 District 8-7 Lancaster County - Line Painting (Countywide)

11208 District 8-4 York County - Main Office (York Garage)

11420 District 8-7 Lancaster County - Rheems Stockpile 16 (North of Rheems PA283 Interchange)

11500 District 8-7 Lancaster County - Main Office (Lancaster Garage)

11502 District 8-7 Lancaster County - Columbia Stockpile 13/14 (30 Prospect Interchange) [also referred to as Lancaster CH 30]

11503 District 8-7 Lancaster County - City Line Stockpile 15 (US30 & PA283 Interchange)

11627 District 8-4 York County - Shrewsbury Twp Stockpile 7 (New Freedom)

11765 District 8-4 York County - Hellam Twp Stockpile 2 (Wrightsville)
[Note: already in DB as generic York tag]

11863 District 8-4 York County - Fawn Twp Stockpile 16 (New Park/Delta)
 
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I can confirm hearing 11443, 11444 and 11447 from Franklin County on CUMB04 and FRAN02, 11514 from Lebanon County on DAUP01, 11402 and 11405 on CUMB04 in Adams County, 11464, 11169 and 11171 from Dauphin County, 11163, 11164 and 11165 from Cumberland County on CUMB04. I have heard "Line Painting" on 11194 from both Lancaster and Dauphin Counties (wonder if it is a D8 wide TG ?). Hope this helps some. I am in Manchester, MD with an amplified discone and several 8 El. Yagis.
 

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I can confirm hearing 11443, 11444 and 11447 from Franklin County on CUMB04 and FRAN02, 11514 from Lebanon County on DAUP01, 11402 and 11405 on CUMB04 in Adams County, 11464, 11169 and 11171 from Dauphin County, 11163, 11164 and 11165 from Cumberland County on CUMB04. I have heard "Line Painting" on 11194 from both Lancaster and Dauphin Counties (wonder if it is a D8 wide TG ?). Hope this helps some. I am in Manchester, MD with an amplified discone and several 8 El. Yagis.

You're my spirit animal. Thanks for the observations.
 

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Excellent report!
I know there isn't any exact science to figuring these out. I have not heard any Dauphin locations mentioned from 1.65 on 11194 (and on that one TG I've heard a lot) Everything was in Ephrata and to the South mostly eastern Lancaster Co locations, IDK, Will keep on keeping on..

[I know for sure that they stop at the Berks Co line and turn around :LOL: They always mention a Porta Pot there and if anyone needs to stop]

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; DOT 8-4 York Line Painting 11169

P25,       BEE00.942, 11169,      1781808,    50,  Normal,       0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "DOT York 11169/11765"
P25,       BEE00.942, 11169,      1781919,    50,  Normal,       0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "DOT York 11169"
P25,       BEE00.942, 11169,      1781925,    50,  Normal,       2,  2019/09/25 13:11,  "DOT York 11169"
P25,       BEE00.942, 11169,      1781932,    50,  Normal,       0,  0000/00/00  0:00,  "DOT York 11169"
P25,       BEE00.942, 11169,      1783055,    50,  Normal,       1,  2019/11/01  6:19,  "DOT York 11169"


; DOT 8-7 Lancaster Line Painting 11194

P25,       BEE00.942, 11194,      1781876,    50,  Normal,     251,  2019/11/15 14:57,  "DOT Lanc830 Cindy 11194"
P25,       BEE00.942, 11194,      1781877,    50,  Normal,     277,  2019/11/15 13:20,  "DOT Lanc Mike 11194"
P25,       BEE00.942, 11194,      1781878,    50,  Normal,     163,  2019/11/15 13:19,  "DOT Lanc 11194"
 

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I just bought a SDS200 on Amazon today and it arrives tomorrow. I will have it parked on this system (Ellendale probably) so I can review TG hits to help nail down some TGs. DSD+ has its place in hunting down new systems but I believe this will really help with identifying the users on TGs.
 

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I use both.
DSD+ does EVERYTHING a scanner does. Not sure why you'd think less of it as a tool (as far as figuring out who's talking to whom about what and where..) Blah, blah, blah ;) You can record each call with TG & RIDS (with alias' if known) Just saying.. :rolleyes: Look forward to hearing about what you find in Dauphin and the surrounds (y)
 

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I use both.
DSD+ does EVERYTHING a scanner does. Not sure why you'd think less of it as a tool (as far as figuring out who's talking to whom about what and where..) Blah, blah, blah ;) You can record each call with TG & RIDS (with alias' if known) Just saying.. :rolleyes: Look forward to hearing about what you find in Dauphin and the surrounds (y)

I agree that DSD+ is very robust. It's an invaluable tool that gives you loads of info - I assume more than the SDS will give me. My dongles just have a really hard time with intermod/desense from Schuylkill Mobile Fone. In Luzerne county, I completely lost a Wayne Co CC while the pager system was TXing. Not nearly the issues here in Dauphin on 158.76 since it's quite a bit further from 152.180. I hear bad things about the sensitivity on the new SDS units but I'm hoping it'll be better than a $10 dongle.
 

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(y) My SDS100 will eventually need to be returned, as one of the earliest units purchased it seems to be getting worse with time (The old cold solder issue is my guess) It gets treated much more gingerly than any of the other radio's I have, But isn't supposed to be so fragile.. Sometimes it shows full -40 RSSI even when the antenna is disconnected, and it does it on everything, Yet receives nothing; And then sometimes shows 0 signal and yet still manages to pass some audio.. Jiggling the antenna on top of the unit usually returns it to normal (for now) Not looking forward to being without it for a month o_O (No it was never dropped)
 
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I know for sure that they stop at the Berks Co line and turn around :LOL: They always mention a Porta Pot there and if anyone needs to stop
They must have done the same thing on US-22 leaving WV toward the Moon/Robinson area. I always joked going past there that it was the PA Welcome Center!
 

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I can confirm hearing 11443, 11444 and 11447 from Franklin County on CUMB04 and FRAN02, 11514 from Lebanon County on DAUP01, 11402 and 11405 on CUMB04 in Adams County, 11464, 11169 and 11171 from Dauphin County, 11163, 11164 and 11165 from Cumberland County on CUMB04. I have heard "Line Painting" on 11194 from both Lancaster and Dauphin Counties (wonder if it is a D8 wide TG ?). Hope this helps some. I am in Manchester, MD with an amplified discone and several 8 El. Yagis.


Line painting is one of the operations based at the District HQ (district wide) level. I believe the bridge inspection ops are the same way...based at the HQ level for the district.
 

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For PennDOT, there are 70 maintenance district facilities (main and satellites), 11 engineering district offices, 412 stockpile locations (at least 260 of which have buildings on site where there could be a small office). Add in the other miscellaneous stuff like line painting and statewides and that's gonna be a lotta talkgroups the way we're going so far.
 

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For whatever it's worth to whoever cares, the PSP dispatch consoles are officially aliased as A, B, C not 1, 2, 3.

135 - R05A
136 - R05B
137 - R04A
138 - R04B
139 - R03A
140 - R03B
141 - R01A
142 - R01B
143 - R01C
 

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11514 talked about stockpile 5 today on the Ellendle VHF site. Not sure which district they are though.

TG 1 lit up today with Wayne talking about seeing helicopters coming down but his compadre saying there are no helicopters coming down on his end. I assumed they were radio techs until I heard them using unit numbers (22 and 790A or 798).
 

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My dongles just have a really hard time with intermod/desense from Schuylkill Mobile Fone. In Luzerne county, I completely lost a Wayne Co CC while the pager system was TXing. Not nearly the issues here in Dauphin on 158.76 since it's quite a bit further from 152.180.
Someone needs to wrap some detcord around those 152.180 transmitters and blow them to kingdom come. Absolutely awful, they s%#t up the entire lower VHF band when they kick on.
 

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11514 talked about stockpile 5 today on the Ellendle VHF site. Not sure which district they are though.

TG 1 lit up today with Wayne talking about seeing helicopters coming down but his compadre saying there are no helicopters coming down on his end. I assumed they were radio techs until I heard them using unit numbers (22 and 790A or 798).

I heard some also from Truce on 11514
Likely the first TG to be confirmed for Lebanon :unsure:
District 8-8 Lebanon County
Stockpile 5 Quentin

RID's
1782242
1782244 "hey I've been checking it"
1782247 "don't break the spinner in that truck"
1782266 "go ahead and load whenever your ready Barry I can't get anybody live"
1782272

11512 Is likely one as well...

Also heard what is likely to be North Central PGC Avis Dispatch 1233006 C6 doing radio tests on 12024
 
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Someone needs to wrap some detcord around those 152.180 transmitters and blow them to kingdom come. Absolutely awful, they s%#t up the entire lower VHF band when they kick on.

152.180 has been around for my entire life so I just grew up assuming my radios were never any good because I could hear paging on frequencies I wasn't supposed to. But then I did some research and found the FCC letters against SMF and realized it was them, not me. The same guy who knowingly pollutes the airwaves also has no problem encrypting an entire county that is almost 100% volunteer...surprise surprise.

I heard some also from Truce on 11514
Likely the first TG to be confirmed for Lebanon :unsure:
District 8-8 Lebanon County
Stockpile 5 Quentin

RID's
1782242
1782244 "hey I've been checking it"
1782247 "don't break the spinner in that truck"
1782266 "go ahead and load whenever your ready Barry I can't get anybody live"
1782272

11512 Is likely one as well...

Also heard what is likely to be North Central PGC Avis Dispatch 1233006 C6 doing radio tests on 12024

Lebanon makes sense if you heard it on Truce. If I recall the Wiki page correctly, there is no stockpile 5 in Dauco.
 
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