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Are all of the itinerant frequencies on the 2m and 70cm bands?

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In other words, if someone has a VHF/UHF radio, can they access all of the itinerant frequencies, or are there some on other bands?
 

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No. There are itinerant freqs everywhere from low band to 900MHz.
 

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You're kind of mixing terms here. "2m" and "70cm" generally refer to the amateur (ham) radio portion of the spectrum, not the commercial (Private Land Mobile Radio) portions of VHF and UHF, respectively. Picking nits? Maybe, but since you're posting in the Industry Discussion forum and not the Amateur Radio forum, the distinction is important.
 

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Okay, so the reason I'm asking, people said that the Motorola MTS2000 800 mhz radios being sold on ebay right now couldn't be used commercially. But it looks like those radios can do 806-870 mhz, and it looks like there are itinerant frequencies within that range.

What am I missing here?
 

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Okay, so the reason I'm asking, people said that the Motorola MTS2000 800 mhz radios being sold on ebay right now couldn't be used commercially. But it looks like those radios can do 806-870 mhz, and it looks like there are itinerant frequencies within that range.

What am I missing here?
Did you actually read the notes on the page @jonwienke linked? Seems not, as the answer to your question is on the page.
 

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I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to, but I feel like this was beaten to death in your other thread. There are no remaining itinerant frequencies in the 800 MHz spectrum. There was one pair prior to rebanding (808/853.4875), which is now allocated to public safety.
 

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I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to, but I feel like this was beaten to death in your other thread. There are no remaining itinerant frequencies in the 800 MHz spectrum. There was one pair prior to rebanding (808/853.4875), which is now allocated to public safety.
Okay that makes sense. Maybe put a note next to that link though warning new guys that the list on that page hasn't been updated to reflect that.
 

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Note too that use of itinerant frequencies still requires a Part-90 FCC license. These allocations were intended to provide radio communications for companies and other entities that have a need to use their systems over wide areas, statewide, and even multi-state. These frequencies do not require coordination and are used on a shared basis.
 

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Note too that use of itinerant frequencies still requires a Part-90 FCC license. These allocations were intended to provide radio communications for companies and other entities that have a need to use their systems over wide areas, statewide, and even multi-state. These frequencies do not require coordination and are used on a shared basis.
I do have a legitimate business interest, so that's no problem. Also don't mind sharing the frequencies. Given the inherent wattage restrictions and the rural nature of my area, I don't expect there to be any interference.
 

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This one.


If that's supposed to be a table of business frequencies it still has 854 to 869 listed as being okay. And if I understand correctly, you guys are saying the FCC gave those to the police?
Business frequencies are not the same as itinerant frequencies.
Business frequencies = eligible for fixed and defined area of operations licenses. Typically afforded some level of frequency coordination.
Itinerant frequency = licensed for use in a large area, with no one particular place more often than another. Not usually coordinated ahead of time.
 

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Business frequencies are not the same as itinerant frequencies.
Business frequencies = eligible for fixed and defined area of operations licenses. Typically afforded some level of frequency coordination.
Itinerant frequency = licensed for use in a large area, with no one particular place more often than another. Not usually coordinated ahead of time.
Now I get it.
 

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After rebanding,
851-854 / 806-809 MHz is public safety only
854-861 / 809-816 MHz is shared public safety and business
862-869 / 817-824 MHz is ESMR

There are no FCC designated itinerant business frequencies on 800 MHz any more but maybe depending on where you are located a frequency coordinator could get you a wide area temporary base/mobile pair.
 

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With your previous thread in mind, you should really employ the assistance of a local 2 way radio shop. Most shops will also handle FCC licensing. I don't know what category "prepper/doomsday/SHTF..or whatever you want to call it" falls under, but they may be able to get you a license.

Establishing a relationship with local shop will only bring positive things to your situation. They may even have used radios available.
 
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