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HM1529

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Not having much luck with TIOG06. For about a week now it is showing as failed, Current.

Had a little bit better luck today with TIOG03. Monitoring from the Rte. 156 Welcome Center near Tioga, it would seem that TIOG03 is online. My Pro-106 showed an NAC of 94E. PRO96COM showed a 152.8925c and an alternate CC. But it was a weak signal and I couldn't get much more.

As for TIOG42, here is the data:

Per Pro-106 the NAC was 94D. Per PRO96COM: 04-1250 153.125c 04-2349 155.8725a

Sys ID 942
RFSS 001
Site ID 126
Tower Status Connected

And of course neighbors:

1.116 Connected, Current
1.117 Connected, Current
1.118 Connected, Current
1.123 Failed, Current
1.124 Connected, Current
1.125 Failed, Current

Perhaps 118 is the Tamarack site over by Renovo, northern Clinton Co? Is 124 the site number for TIOG03?
 

mtindor

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Not having much luck with TIOG06. For about a week now it is showing as failed, Current.

Had a little bit better luck today with TIOG03. Monitoring from the Rte. 156 Welcome Center near Tioga, it would seem that TIOG03 is online. My Pro-106 showed an NAC of 94E. PRO96COM showed a 152.8925c and an alternate CC. But it was a weak signal and I couldn't get much more.

As for TIOG42, here is the data:

Per Pro-106 the NAC was 94D. Per PRO96COM: 04-1250 153.125c 04-2349 155.8725a

Sys ID 942
RFSS 001
Site ID 126
Tower Status Connected

And of course neighbors:

1.116 Connected, Current
1.117 Connected, Current
1.118 Connected, Current
1.123 Failed, Current
1.124 Connected, Current
1.125 Failed, Current

I could be wrong, since I don't use Pro96Com, but I thought that when it lists the peers, it also lists the current peer control channel frequency. In what you've posted above, you list the site ID and it's current state, but not the actual control channel associated with each of those peer sites. Can you provide that listing?
 

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I could be wrong, since I don't use Pro96Com, but I thought that when it lists the peers, it also lists the current peer control channel frequency. In what you've posted above, you list the site ID and it's current state, but not the actual control channel associated with each of those peer sites. Can you provide that listing?

You're not wrong. The plan was to type everything verbatim with this header:

Site | SysID | CH | Frequency | Site Name | Status
 

mtindor

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You're not wrong. The plan was to type everything verbatim with this header:

Site | SysID | CH | Frequency | Site Name | Status

I was referring to this specifically :

Per Pro-106 the NAC was 94D. Per PRO96COM: 04-1250 153.125c 04-2349 155.8725a

Sys ID 942
RFSS 001
Site ID 126
Tower Status Connected

And of course neighbors:

1.116 Connected, Current
1.117 Connected, Current
1.118 Connected, Current
1.123 Failed, Current
1.124 Connected, Current
1.125 Failed, Current

In Pro96Com, where it lists each peer (ex: 1.116) and it's current state (ex: Connected, Current), it will also list a frequency. That frequency is the current control channel of the peering site.

So one would expect something like:

1.116 ###.#### Connected, Current
1.117 ###.#### Connected, Current
1.118 ###.#### Connected, Current
etc

And, when you run Pro96Com, it stores all of the information it gathers in a system file and various site files, each of which is just a plain text file that can be viewed with notepad.

I'd ask that you go into your Pro96Com folder, find the site file specific to Site 126, and gather the peer information from it (site id | frequency | state).

That is very useful information being that I think three of the peers listed are currently unknown, and knowing what their current control channel is may help us to determine what those sites are.

Mike
 

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Depending on what tower(s) you have monitored, you will see a list of files like this:

I was looking in the wrong folder. Site 124:

-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 942
System Name : Pa STARNet
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-124
Tower Number (Hex) : T017C
Tower Description : TIOG03
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Sun Sep 13 11:09:19 2020

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
04,150.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,161.70000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,450.00000,0.00625,5.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,150.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,155.00250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,161.70000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
12,161.70250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
13,166.80000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
14,166.80250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
15,450.00000,0.00625,5.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"04-1157","c",152.89250,"04-3978",159.94500,1,0
"04-2232","a",155.58000,"04-3507",158.76750,1,0

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
1122,"T017A",942,"04-1490",153.72500,""
1125,"T017D",942,"04-1872",154.68000,""
1126,"T017E",942,"04-1250",153.12500,"TIOG42"
 

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Site 1.126:

-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 942
System Name : Pa STARNet
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-126
Tower Number (Hex) : T017E
Tower Description : TIOG42
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) :
Timestamp : Sun Sep 13 10:43:58 2020

-Tables
#Format: Table ID,Base Freq,Spacing,Input Offset,Assumed/Confirmed,BandWidth,Slots
00,851.00625,0.00625,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
01,762.00625,0.00625,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
02,851.01250,0.01250,-45.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
03,762.00625,0.01250,30.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
04,150.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
05,161.70000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
06,450.00000,0.00625,5.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,1
07,150.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
08,150.00250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
09,155.00000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
10,155.00250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
11,161.70000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
12,161.70250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
13,166.80000,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
14,166.80250,0.00250,-3.20000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2
15,450.00000,0.00625,5.00000,"Confirmed",0.01250,2

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"04-1250","c",153.12500,"04-3714",159.28500,1,0
"04-2349","a",155.87250,"04-3612",159.03000,1,0

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
1116,"T0174",942,"04-3651",159.12750,"LYCO15"
1117,"T0175",942,"04-1902",154.75500,""
1118,"T0176",942,"04-0425",151.06250,""
1123,"T017B",942,"04-2076",155.19000,""
1124,"T017C",942,"04-1157",152.89250,"TIOG03"
1125,"T017D",942,"04-1872",154.68000,"TIOG06"
 

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Today we're testing statewide on a 10077 TG and 302 RID. Good day to check TIOG06. The results:

The NAC is 948

FileVersion:8
-TowerInfo
#This section is here for information only. With the exception
#of the Call Sign(s), This data is not Read back into the program at all.
System ID : 942
System Name : Pa STARNet
WACN : BEE00
Tower Number (Decimal): 1-125
Tower Number (Hex) : T017D
Tower Description : TIOG06
Control Capabilities : Data,Voice,Registration
Flavor : Phase 2
Call Sign(s) : WQVF377
Timestamp : Mon Sep 14 14:45:33 2020

-Frequencies
#Format: Channel,Usage,Frequency(/Slot),Input Channel,Input Frequency(/Slot),Input Explicit(1/0),Hit Count
"04-1872","c",154.68000,"04-3657",159.14250,1,0
"04-2211","a",155.52750,"04-3966",159.91500,1,0
"10-0420","v",155.52750/0,"09-3932",159.91500/0,1,2
"10-0421","v",155.52750/1,"09-3933",159.91500/1,1,6

-Neighbors
#Format: TowerID,TowerIDHex,System ID,Channel,Frequency,Tower Name
1113,"T0171",942,"04-1433",153.58250,"BRAD31"
1116,"T0174",942,"04-3651",159.12750,"LYCO15"
1124,"T017C",942,"04-1157",152.89250,"TIOG03"
1126,"T017E",942,"04-1250",153.12500,"TIOG42"

I omitted the tables. If anyone wants just let me know.
 

GTR8000

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Good stuff. The band plan tables are identical for every site in the system, FYI.
 

smorris

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Devault is very active throughout the day. Mostly encrypted PSP, but also PGC and some PennDOT D5 now and then...also PUC and DEP have been active before. The site can be so busy sometimes that all four voice paths can be active simultaneously. That doesn't bode well since DOT D6 isn't even on the air, yet. Those PennDOT guys like to talk sometimes.

Yeah, PennDOT folks talk an awful lot. Sometimes they say things that maybe should be said off the air. D5 Monroe Co has been doing a lot of work at night.
 

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For anyone up in the north-central region, it is being reported that all sites may already be online/operational. There are 9 or so sites in the area not yet positively identified, indicated by the black placemarkers on this map. If anyone is in range of those sites, please search the VHF band from 151 to 160 MHz looking for P25 control channels showing SysID 942. And for those in range of the neighboring sites (in blue), please check for updated neighbor/peer lists that may be announcing unidentified sites.

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For anyone up in the north-central region, it is being reported that all sites may already be online/operational. There are 9 or so sites in the area not yet positively identified, indicated by the black placemarkers on this map. If anyone is in range of those sites, please search the VHF band from 151 to 160 MHz looking for P25 control channels showing SysID 942. And for those in range of the neighboring sites (in blue), please check for updated neighbor/peer lists that may be announcing unidentified sites.

View attachment 91518

Any chance of those sites using 160 - 172 MHz? There are several sites in south central PA that are in my receiving range that do.
 

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Looks like we missed this one. BLAI02 (Martinsburg, Bedford County) is apparently the third subsite of the Fulton Simulcast now. Site was added to the WQUV758 license back in July.
 

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I’m also surprised Luzerne still only has 2 sites listed. Unless I’m missing something (which is very possible) I don’t see how the Wyoming Barracks can work off the Shick and Hazleton sites without any coverage issues.
 

HM1529

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I’m also surprised Luzerne still only has 2 sites listed. Unless I’m missing something (which is very possible) I don’t see how the Wyoming Barracks can work off the Shick and Hazleton sites without any coverage issues.

PSP uses DVRS in their vehicles. The portables go through the cars. Mobile coverage is quite good from what I understand.
 

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I guess with the latest county updates the system is truly statewide now, which means I am locked out from further admin activity unless I get an upgrade. It was fun while it lasted.:cry:
 
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