Hoosier SAFE-T thread 2022

[west-pac]

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think that area is North Region radios for INDOT and or Hoosier Helpers because one of the traffic centers is 94103. There not many of those IDs logged. In my area I got a bunch in the recent weather event they chattered all night. It just have them labeled as the districts truck because it hard to tell them apart. I will have to look but I think they were 9420XXX

Yes, they are north zone radios.
Prior to 94103XX, in my RID list, is the Indiana Toll Road maintenence company with 94101XX rids.

I have three 94103XX radios logged, and all of them are on the unknown TG 10662.

TG 10662 is available on the Grant Co site, but it has never been used anywhere around Grant Co, which tells me it's likely a statewide TG.

 

[dfoutch]

Got one, RID 9410338 affiliated to TG 10662 (02/15/2022 17:02:10) on the Anderson site. No calls noted.
Got two, RID 9410337 & 38 Affiliated to TG 10662 (02/15/2022 17: 17:xx) On the Pendleton Site. No calls noted.

 

[DiGiTaLD]

I think some IU Health Police RIDs start with 94 but I won't be able to monitor them again until this weekend

They very well may. Some of their radios may have come through ISDH which would generally be a 94-prefix radio ID.

 

[west-pac]

So apparently it's a wide-area TG, as seen on multiple sites in different regions. It's not likely to be IUH PD. They likely have enough radio traffic that it wouldn't been identified by now. These 94103xx RIDs only affiliate with TG 10662. There is no other traffic on that TG, or from these RIDs. That TG block (10660's) is also in use by IPSC.

 

[dfoutch]

Looking at data files for Feb: found this:

9410332,"TG: 21757 DT: 9/10/21@7:26",1631299917,"09/10/2021 @ 14:51","#000000","#000000"

21757,50,"T: 133 DT: 9/10/21@7:26",1631273181,"09/10/2021 @ 07:26",1631273181,"09/10/2021 @ 07:26","#000000","#000000","N",0,1

 

[I_Am_Infinite]

These are what I've got and seen more than few times. I got many more I just want to make sure there right before putting them here.

Newton County
EMA, FD,EMS Dispatch - 5610162
Sheriff Dispatch - 5610160
------------------------ All below Sheriff's units
56-2 - 5610123
56-4 - 5610125
56-5 - 5610126
56-6 - 5610128
56-10 - 5610130
56-11 - 5610131
56-12 - 5610132
56-13 - 5610134
56-15 - 5610136
56-16 - 5610137
56-18 - 5610124
56-20 - 5610143
---------------------- Goodland PD
56-51 - 5610048
----------------------- Brooke PD
56-71 - 5610139
------------------------ Morocco PD
56-91 - 5610169
------------------------ Kentland PD
56-81 - 5610108
56-82 - 5610107
----------------------- State Police 13
13-7-25 - 9303212
------------------------ State Police Toll Road
21-1-15 - 9300726
------------------------- Cedar Lake PD
Cedar Lake PD Dispatch - 45102
CLPD38 - 4513542
------------------------ White County
White County Sheriff Dispatch - 911097
91-8 - 9110333
91-12 - 9110329
91-19 - 9110341
91-16 - 9110334
91-7 - 9110309
------------------------ Jasper County
Jasper County Sheriff Dispatch - 3710136
Remington PD 1 - 3710048
37-24 - 3710289
37-4 - 3710132
37-6 - 3710146
37-14 - 3710290
37-4 - 3710132
Rennselaer PD Dispatch - 3710202
----------------------- State Police 14
14-21 - 9302210
Ok thats it for now I got to verify alot more. Takecare

 

[DiGiTaLD]

Seen on Greenwood site this morning: TG 10116, activity from about 4 radios, all voice calls encrypted. IDs are in the 990xxxx range, so probably Federal. I first logged this TG on 9/23/2021.

 

[west-pac]

Seen on Greenwood site this morning: TG 10116, activity from about 4 radios, all voice calls encrypted. IDs are in the 990xxxx range, so probably Federal. I first logged this TG on 9/23/2021.

That's odd. That block from 10116-10122 is right in the middle of the Dekalb Co TGs.

 

[west-pac]

Seen on Greenwood site this morning: TG 10116, activity from about 4 radios, all voice calls encrypted. IDs are in the 990xxxx range, so probably Federal. I first logged this TG on 9/23/2021.

I found that IDEA has state mandated training in New Castle at 13:00 today (the current time 13:12). Possibly federal agents giving that training? I'd look for additional affiliations on the New Castle site currently, then possibly on the return trip to Indy in a few hours(?).

Mission - Law Enforcement Training

IDEA Mission Statement Growing from 70 members in 1986 to our present membership, IDEA still shows its same strong sense of purpose and continues to work at its three main goals set out back in 1986. They are.... To encourage a high standard of enforcement of federal and state narcotics laws...

www.indianadea.com

 

[INDY72]

New bridges for V-Call/V-Tacs, and U-Call/U-Tacs being installed and tested by IPSC so look for the patch/bridge TG's to start popping up before long for those Interops!

 

[west-pac]

New bridges for V-Call/V-Tacs, and U-Call/U-Tacs being installed and tested by IPSC so look for the patch/bridge TG's to start popping up before long for those Interops!

I take it these are going to be Regional TGs? How is a SAFE-T user supposed to use these TGs if they're not already in the radios?...is the state going to touch all the radios again? Not all radios are OTAP capable.

 

[INDY72]

I take it these are going to be Regional TGs? How is a SAFE-T user supposed to use these TGs if they're not already in the radios?...is the state going to touch all the radios again? Not all radios are OTAP capable.

Not sure I was monitoring while IPSC Command was talking to one of the techs as they were setting up a bridge for the UHF's. They were going to be testing U-Call 40 Direct on it. If my guess is correct, they will be patched to the Regional Mutual Aids, the SWMA's or Zone Events on demand. It would be the easiest way to do it. It will definitely make interop with the Federal Agencies not on SAFE-T to easier, as well as say KSP etc... Kinda surprising this was not done long time ago as IPSC is usually way ahead on this kind of thing. But now that the big push for AT&T's baby to be integrated is all done, and the big push to upgrade ALL radios to phase II capability is well under way, they can get to other things.

 

[INDY72]

Update on the new bridges to conventional nationwides: There are going to be a new set of TG's for these with permanent linking to the conventional freqs. Once the set up is done, anyone using the conventionals will get repeated on the TG's of the SAFE-T Site they are affiliating with. This could overload busy sites until Phase II is fully implemented, as ISP does use the 8 Call/Tacs a lot for traffic escort details/bs chit chat.

 

[DiGiTaLD]

Update on the new bridges to conventional nationwides: There are going to be a new set of TG's for these with permanent linking to the conventional freqs. Once the set up is done, anyone using the conventionals will get repeated on the TG's of the SAFE-T Site they are affiliating with. This could overload busy sites until Phase II is fully implemented, as ISP does use the 8 Call/Tacs a lot for traffic escort details/bs chit chat.

I would guess these would only be linked to the repeaters. Ideally the usage of the 8TAC channels for car-to-car should be in direct mode (i.e. 8TAC92D) which would not repeat and thus would not be bridged back to the trunked system.

 

[DiGiTaLD]

So apparently it's a wide-area TG, as seen on multiple sites in different regions. It's not likely to be IUH PD. They likely have enough radio traffic that it wouldn't been identified by now. These 94103xx RIDs only affiliate with TG 10662. There is no other traffic on that TG, or from these RIDs. That TG block (10660's) is also in use by IPSC.

Just saw 10662 on the Greenwood site. One 941xxxx radio ID affiliating, no voice traffic.

 

[Steve73]

Update on the new bridges to conventional nationwides: There are going to be a new set of TG's for these with permanent linking to the conventional freqs. Once the set up is done, anyone using the conventionals will get repeated on the TG's of the SAFE-T Site they are affiliating with. This could overload busy sites until Phase II is fully implemented, as ISP does use the 8 Call/Tacs a lot for traffic escort details/bs chit chat.

INDOT use the 8-Tacs a lot in my area. You said it right "bs chit chat"

 

[DiGiTaLD]

"bs chit chat"

Which is not such a problem as long as its direct and not through the repeater!

 

[Steve73]

Which is not such a problem as long as its direct and not through the repeater!

True and they are on direct when I've heard them talking about everything to drivers of vehicles, lunch, and need to hit the bathroom ! LOL

 

[INDY72]

True and they are on direct when I've heard them talking about everything to drivers of vehicles, lunch, and need to hit the bathroom ! LOL

Whats funny is listening to ISP officers doing idle chit chat, then in the midst of that.. "Hey, got a yellow Honda Civic rolling pretty fast your way, you maight want to have your radar gun on." A couple of minutes later on district dispatch TG.. "XXXX Indianapolis, ...." and the stop happen lol.

 

[Firefighter8231]

Question. Will a Motorola XTS5000 pick up SAFE-T and do you need the IPSC state ID to do so?